> and I'm not a software developer to test it by myself.
>> You are not.  But can you make their job easy?

I cannot do everything by myself, that’s why I'm discussing with the IETF to 
make a group of participants working together to achieve the same purpose which 
is IPmix.

Khaled

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] FW: Request for a mailing list to IPmix I-D.

Le 29/09/2017 à 19:32, Khaled Omar a écrit :
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Khaled Omar Sent: Friday, September  
> 29, 2017 7:32 PM To: 'Tom Herbert' Subject: RE: [Int-area] Request for 
> a mailing list to IPmix I-D.
> 
> Hi Tom.
> 
>> Regarding this statement: "this can be accomplished by technology 
>> companies in a short time" -- I see no technical basis for this 
>> claim.
> 
> The technical basis is to allow encapsulation of both versions in the 
> same L3 packet header.

Well, there are multiple ways to encapsulate versions of IP in a same packet 
header.

One is to use IP-in-IP encapsulation.  You could do IPvx-in-IPv6.

Another is to multiplex with a number below IP.  For example, you have an 
EtherType for IPv4 and another EtherType for IPv6.  The EtherType field is in 
an Ethernet header which is below IP.  You could see EtherType quickly if you 
download the free tool 'wireshark'.  You dont have to be a software developper 
to do that.  Architects use wireshark extensively.

Another one is to use an IPv6 Extension Header called "Routing Header".
  You could put an IPv4 destination address _and_ an IPv6 destination address 
in the same Routing Header.  As a result, the packet would be travelling to 
IPv4 Computers and to IPv6 Computers too.

That said, I agree with you that that the technical basis is to allow 
encapsulate versions of IP in a same packet header.

I would also rather say: the technical issue is how to use different versions 
of IP in a same IP packet.

>> Since the initial posting of the IPv10, I and and others have asked 
>> several times for an implementation.
> 
> Yes, this have to be tested because theoretically it works fine

I agree with you.  Many concepts are first imagined in someone's  mind, then 
sketched with a pencil on a paper, and discussed.  These concepts work fine 
theoretically.

> and I'm not a software developer to test it by myself.

You are not.  But can you make their job easy?

Me too I can sketch a concept car on paper, but I doubt any manufacturer will 
ever make one :-)  Because I dont know how to make cars.

Alex

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