> That said, I agree with you that that the technical basis is to allow
> encapsulate versions of IP in a same packet header.
>
This does not justify the statements that this protocol can be
developed and deployed in a short time by technology companies.
Deploying anything at Internet scale is hard, developing and deploying
a new IP version is at least an order of magnitude harder. Even if you
were to just change the version number of IPv4 and make no other
changes to the protocol, it still would be a stunning amount of work
that touches a myriad of devices and systems. End hosts need to change
several ways, NIC HW needs to change to support protocol specific
features, routers and switches need to be able to deal with new
version which most likely will require hardware changes, middleboxes
and firewalls need to deal with this, security needs to be fully
considered. Monitoring and diagnostic tools need to change, management
and administration need changes. But, on top of all that, there's no
magic switch that can turn up this new IP version on all hosts and
routers on the Internet instantaneously so we need to implement more
backoffs like happy eyeballs. Sorry, there is just no easy path here;
if there were it would have been applied to IPv6 long ago...

> I would also rather say: the technical issue is how to use different
> versions of IP in a same IP packet.
>
>>> Since the initial posting of the IPv10, I and and others have asked
>>> several times for an implementation.
>>
>>
>> Yes, this have to be tested because theoretically it works fine
>
>
> I agree with you.  Many concepts are first imagined in someone's  mind,
> then sketched with a pencil on a paper, and discussed.  These concepts
> work fine theoretically.
>
>> and I'm not a software developer to test it by myself.
>
>
> You are not.  But can you make their job easy?
>
> Me too I can sketch a concept car on paper, but I doubt any manufacturer
> will ever make one :-)  Because I dont know how to make cars.
>
IETF is "rough consensus and running code". It's incumbent on the
advocates of a proposed protocol to push for both of these. There's no
concept that protocol experts bring their protocols to IETF and then
throw over the wall to the protocol developers who happily go off and
implement the spec. If you don't have the skills for implementation,
then please find someone else to work with who can do it for you.

Tom

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