On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:15:54AM +0100, Dave O'Reilly wrote: [...] > Referring to the mission statement: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3935 > > "The goal of the IETF is to make the Internet work better.” > > I offer the following thoughts: > > 1. Definition of the term “Internet” > > RFC3935 defines “Internet” as follows: > > The Internet: A large, heterogeneous collection of interconnected systems > that can be used for communication of many different types between any > interested parties connected to it. [...] > 2. Definition of the term “better” > > This term is undefined in the document. However, However, I put forward the > following argument for your consideration:
Since the Internet is about communication, I would interpret "better" in this context as improving and encouraging communication. Any logging however, if not done as a temporary measure to understand and enhance a protocol (configuration), will potentially discourage communication. > a. “Better” will in some sense incorporate “more secure” > b. Security includes consideration of the implications of breaches of security > c. The implications of a breach of security need to take into account the > risks to privacy ****BUT ALSO THE RIGHTS OF VICTIMS OF CRIME**** To me this draft has the potential to stifle the rights of victims, too: A permanent IP/source-port logging could create a significant barrier for victims to seek help and guidance over the Internet. I could not find any such considerations in the current draft. Regards, Linus _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area