There's also the matter of whether allocating 114 for this doc would establish a precedent.
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 20:24, Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> wrote: > On 21-Sep-19 14:11, Joe Touch wrote: > > FWIW, there are many registries with such “dead” entries. > > 114 is a bit special. By definition, all our normal traffic monitoring > techniques will *never* see protocol 114 unless by chance they are > installed on a layer 2 segment where it is in use. So even if no traces > anywhere include it for ten years, we still can't assert that it is out of > use. It seems harder to prove than most negatives :-). > > > RFC6335 talks about the issue in trying to recover such entries. > > > > In general, it recommends that even if they are recovered, at best they > would be marked as “RESERVED” until other values have been assigned and the > space requires reuse of those dead entries. > > > > So the net effect is: > > a) the list will never actually reflect what is deployed (as Bob notes > below) > > b) garbage-collecting will at best mark some subset as dead > > c) but the available entries won’t be reused until we run out anyway > > > > Given the number of remaining entries, the task of garbage collection > seems of little value. > > Until the day when it seems urgent... > > Brian > > > > > Joe > > > >> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Bob Hinden <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Andy, > >> > >>> On Sep 20, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Andrew G. Malis <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Behcet, > >>> > >>> That was a historical list. The current assignments are in > https://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers/protocol-numbers.xhtml > . If you want to go garbage collecting, that's the place to start. > >> > >> It's difficult to tell which are no longer used. For example, I was > recently asked about the Reliable Data Protocol, it’s IANA assignment: > >> > >> 27 RDP Reliable Data Protocol [RFC908][Bob_Hinden] > >> > >> I assumed it was no longer used. Later by happenstance, I learned it > is specified by ETSI as mandatory to implement in eSIMs. I had no idea. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> _______ > >> internet-history mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > >> Contact [email protected] for assistance. > > > > _______ > > internet-history mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.postel.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history > > Contact [email protected] for assistance. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Int-area mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area >
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