Thank you all for your unicast, multicast replies and the educated pieces of 
information sent. I even went in the Internet history museum ;-)

Based on the provided information, I will recommend to the 
draft-zhu-intarea-gma authors:

  1.  As it is an informational independent stream with little traction, to 
keep using the IP protocol 114;
  2.  BUT, the I-D should be revised to specify a hop-limit of 0 for IPv6 (RFC 
8200) and time-to-live of 1 for IPv4 (RFC 791). The balance of local-only 
packet leak prevention (HL=0) and security (HL=255) in this case should be on 
preventing the leak of the local-only packets outside the ‘local domain’ to the 
Internet or to another domain which could use this IP protocol.
  3.  Any other standard track IETF stream document (including this one may be 
in the future) should request a new IP protocol number if required. The last 
assigned IP protocol number AFAIK was for HIP in 2015 and there are more than 
40% remaining.

Now, it would nice to have a volunteer to write a document to finally document 
those “Any bla” protocol number by putting common sense 
restrictions/constraints on them (protocols 9/IGP, 61/host internal, 63/local 
network, 68/distributed FS, 99/private encryption scheme, 114/0-hop).

Regards

-éric


From: Int-area <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Vyncke 
<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 19 September 2019 at 17:07
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Int-area] Existing use of IP protocol 114 (any 0-hop protocol)

The authors of https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhu-intarea-gma-03.txt would 
like to use IP protocol 114 as it is described as “Any 0-hop protocol” on the 
IANA page[1]. Alas, on the IANA page, there is no reference to this “Any 0-hop 
protocol”.

Obviously, we all understand that this must be a protocol using hop limit = 0 
(or TTL=0 for the legacy protocol).

When there is no reference for a IANA number, this means that this number was 
assigned _before_ IANA, possibly by J. Postel and nobody at IANA and in the 
IESG know more. Hence, my questions to the community:

Q1) does anyone know about a more formal reference / specification for this 
protocol 114

Q2) does anyone know about a RFC or a protocol using this protocol 114 ?

Please note that I do not ask for comments/reviews on the draft itself (they 
are welcome though on the [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> mailing 
list even if this is not a WG document). And it is also mostly obvious that 
only one transport layer can exist on the top of this protocol.

Regards,

-éric (INT AD)


[1] https://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers/protocol-numbers.xhtml
_______________________________________________
Int-area mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area

Reply via email to