> -----Original Message-----
> From: marcelo bagnulo braun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:08 PM
> To: Narayanan, Vidya
> Cc: Alexandru Petrescu; INT Area; James Kempf
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv6 addressing model, per-MN subnet 
> prefix,and broadcast domain
> 
> 
> El 08/08/2006, a las 0:34, Narayanan, Vidya escribió:
> 
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Alexandru Petrescu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> marcelo bagnulo braun wrote:
> >> [snip picture and text]
> >>> How do the nodes configure their global addresses? I mean 
> are they 
> >>> using stateless autconf?
> >>
> >> Not sure about what's becoming mandatory and what not.
> >> There's a draft on MN-AR interface talking about _both_ 
> stateless and 
> >> stateful, haven't checked recently though.
> >>
> >>> If they do, how do you prevent the nodes from configuring
> >> one address
> >>> per prefix the get in the RADV?
> >>
> >> By putting M bit to 1 in RA thus instructing MN not to derive an 
> >> address from the prefix in RA ('M' stands for managed, 
> instructing to 
> >> use DHCP instead).
> >>
> >>> wouldn't some of the nodes end up with multiple addresses from 
> >>> different prefixes?
> >>
> >> Yes, provided stateless autoconf is used.
> >
> >
> > No. The goal here is strangely different, actually. The 
> goal is not to 
> > advertise all the prefixes in all the RAs - the RA itself will be 
> > tailored per mobile - so, each mobile will only see the 
> prefix that is 
> > being "assigned" to it.
> >
> 
> but how do you achieve that? isn't all a single broadcast 
> link (with multiple subnets? if this is the case all the 
> nodes see all the RADV, hence all the nodes configure 
> addresses from all prefixes, right?
> 

I believe those will be unicast RAs sent to the link local address - there will 
be a huge mess without that, as you observe (I believe there is a mess in the 
addressing model even with that, but it will be worse with broadcast RAs). 


> > The other strange thing here is that the mobile may not 
> know that it 
> > is being "assigned" anything - so, it may continue to use stateless 
> > autoconfig, assuming it is a shared prefix.
> 
> i am lost now.... are you using something different than 
> stateless autocnf and than dhcp? a new address conf protocol 
> for specific for netlmm?
> 

I'm waiting to see some proposed text myself to see how this whole thing is 
going to work on shared media :) Based on the emails I've seen, I think the 
proposal is the following (people who are actually proposing this may correct 
anything I say incorrectly here): 

When a mobile shows up, the AR obtains a prefix for the mobile from the LMA 
using the NETLMM protocol. That prefix is sent in a unicast RA to the mobile by 
the AR. The MN doesn't really know it is a unique prefix - it performs SLAAC 
and comes up with an address and performs DAD. 

At the moment, I'm very skeptical about slapping a point-to-point model on 
shared media - I'll wait for some text to see if I can convince myself :) 

Regards,
Vidya

> regards, marcelo
> 
> 
> >
> > The other point here that may be considered weird is that 
> although the 
> > prefix is being "assigned" so to say, there is no lifetime for it 
> > (unlike DHCP-PD, for e.g.) - so, I'm not sure if these prefixes are 
> > pretty much permanently assigned or if, based on the NETLMM 
> location 
> > registration information, these are somehow removed.
> >
> > Vidya
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> breaking the goal of having one node per prefix?
> >>
> >> Not sure about the goal of having one node per prefix, where is it 
> >> from?
> >>   I know about a netlmm goal needing MN not to change its address 
> >> (maybe called CoA, not sure), not sure whether this is in the reqs 
> >> draft either.
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
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