I agree the question glides over a lot of the complexity. It is a complex problem with lots of ramifications and I wanted my post to be readable inside a few minutes. I share you concerns about end-user privacy and freedom and I have lots of problems with universal cryptographic authentication from a technical feasibility point of view as well as a privacy point of view.

But if you look at it in another way, there are solutions that could be imposed that are very threatening to privacy and in the current climate there are people who would like to impose them.

I would prefer to see the effort to solve an infrastructure security problem that is in itself essentially orthoganal to privacy solved in a forum that is known to care deeply about privacy issues than in alternative forums that if you were to be generous you would say they don't care.

cheers,

Mark

Sam Hartman wrote:

>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


    Mark> 3. Would it be a good thing if there was a coordinated
    Mark> effort to improve the situation for IPv6 while it is still
    Mark> at a low level of deployment? (I think it would.)

I think thisquestion misses a lot of complexity.

I think it depends very much on what the effort is.  How does it
affect end-user privacy and freedom?  How does it affect anonymous
traffic?  (I'll accept that you don't need to support spoofed source
addresses to have reasonable levels of anonymity, but I am less
willing to accept that universal cryptographic authentication would be
good.)  What new threats are created?  How does it affect business
models?  Does it create any new concentrations of power and if so,
what checks and balances are in place for these new concentrations of
power?


--Sam


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