On 11-okt-2007, at 16:12, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:

(1) PANA does not meet IPAuth-14 "Must allow for authentication and
download of subscriber service profile before service IP address is
assigned." IPAuth14 is from the earlier DSLF liaison document to which
Mark referred.

Hm, but this could be worked around by having a provisional IP address that can be used to carry PANA, after which the "service" IP address is assigned. The PANA spec specifically mentions such a scenario. The advantage of PANA over DHCP is that, as far as I can tell from a quick read of the spec, PANA is completely IP version agnostic while DHCP and DHCPv6 are orthogonal protocols, raising all kinds of issues when 1. adding IPv6 or 2. replacing IPv4 with IPv6. Also, while it should be doable to get the necessary changes to DHCP into new home gateways within a reasonable timeframe (but forget most existing ones), it would be quite hard to upgrade DHCP implementations in operating systems. A small but significant part of all users uses OS versions which are no longer supported. Unless I missed something, PANA could be implemented as a simple third party application or even be run as a Java applet in a web browser.

Apart from the IPv4/IPv6 issue and deployment difficulties I'm also worried about putting information in DHCP that is specific to a single attachment point while DHCP is meant to help a host attach to the network in numerous locations without location-specific configuration.

Another good way to meet the DSL Forum's requirement would be to run PANA over IPv6 link-local addresses. Assuming the presence of an IPv6 stack on both ends, this seems to be the least problematic way to do all of this: you get to talk to the first layer 3 device upstream without any layer 2 issues to worry about but address provisioning hasn't happened yet so no difficulties there either. This wouldn't be ethernet-specific but it would probably be advantageous to correlate the MAC address that was used in the PANA exchange with the MAC address in subsequent DHCP exchanges.



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