hello! Jerry, this is exactly what I wanted you to think about in the 'wood and water wheel' thought experiment. Of course, the wooden wheel has one half in water, which is what makes that half of the wheel weigh less than the other half at all times, which should result in wheel spin. It works exactly the same way as the Gravity Driven Wheel, but instead of superconductors lowering the weight of one half of the wheel, displacement in water does it for free. If the Gravity Driven Wheel will spin as theorized, so will the wooden wheel. But what if the wooden wheel was not made of wood, but a plastic with similar density to water, and within the wheel was 5 sections of weights, evenly distributed around the wheel's periphery? With one half of the wheel in the water, that half would always be weightless, except for the weight within the wheel, and since there is an odd number of weights, the wheel will have trouble balancing, And the part of the wheel that is out of the water will weigh its equal to water, plus the imbedded weights, and so the wheel should readily spin. As to the Gravity Drop Experiments, any coil when energized will create its own magnetic field, which will interact with the Earth's field. The probability is very high that what was happening was simply an interferance of the Earth's field, just barely perceptible over time. And a gyroscope will lose some of it's weight when spun up to an appropriate revolution speed, because of centrifugal force. The Earth's gravity is basically overridden by the lateral forces that are in the gyro. Which brings me to the Clem Motor. The Clem Motor absolutely should work as Clem claimed. Whenever you can spin an object fast enough, it's kinetic energy can be much greater than gravity, so in Clem's motor, as it spins, the oil is subjected to tremendous centrifugal forces, much greater than gravity, so the oil's LATERAL weight can be many times gravity. When the oil is spread out in the rotor through many channels, and jets, all rapidly flowing laterally to the shaft, gravity will virtually be nullified. The motor should easily be able to take up enough oil ( or water), to keep the rotor full, and supply the jets. The only problem will be cavitation, and governance, which can be overcome if you understand fluid dynamics. Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Decker - KN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [Keelynet] differences of potential, vortexes and gravity


Hola Folks!

I was watching a new movie at home called 'The Marine'...helluvan action movie! The TV remote slid off the sofa back during a slow time in the movie and for some reason, I pictured gravity pressing down on it to cause the fall, thus gravity did 'work'.

Continuing the thought along the lines of difference of potential, I remembered that Thomas Townsend Brown had worked on a Navy project that took a submarine around the globe, measuring gravity intensities.

Someone years ago sent me a copy of the book that came out of this and it shows gravity differences all over the planet. Of course nowadays there are much more precise measurements made by satellite.

Well, since you can tap into energy or force differentials to produce mechanical or other forces...it seems if you could find a gravity anomaly and setup a machine, like a weighted overbalanced wheel, then you might be able to make it self-rotate, powered by gravity.

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/scwheel.htm

Nick Nelson, who used to work at the Oregon Vortex, wrote a book called 'The Golden Vortex' where he describes some of the anomalies he investigated. He says he learned how to create a vortex phenomenon just about anywhere and that he can create or dissipate it at will, but he won't spill the beans as to how its done.

So if gravity is isotropic, with 'push' lines normally converging towards the center of all masses with an intensity dependent on mass density, yet there are areas of the planet where the inflowing lines are weaker, we might be able to tap into it.

Perhaps this could be doneusing gyro precessional forces such as Laithwaites claim of losing some 18 pounds in a rotating 50 pound gyroscope which is lifted.

Or something like the experiments of the late Lloyd Zirbes using dissimilar materials dropped to show a difference in velocity over distance...or the gravity drop experiments of Don Kelly using sealed boxes containing powered and unpowered mobius/caduceus/bifilar/toroidal coils which showed speed variations, thus indicating 'interference' with local gravity flows towards the earth.

http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00002134.htm

6) Another physics test might be to duplicate Don Kelly's gravity drop
experiments where he used mobius/caduceus coils inside identical boxes.
He dropped these boxes mechanically over a fixed distance to get the
average fall time. Then he connected a battery to the coil and noted
that THE BOXES FELL SLOWER when the circuit was powered. You could use
a pulse generator and compare many different arrangements. That would
blow them away if you take all precautions and use statistical averages
with as much reliable mechanical drop components and photo detectors to
be triggered to calculate fall times under different circumstances.

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