Hello Sterling,

Monday, June 30, 2003, 7:20:37 AM, you wrote:

SH> [...]

SH> PHP 5 is almost there, and prematurely imposing rules on ourselves
SH> because we now labeled a "beta" seems like an unwise choice.  The
SH> majority of the changes marcus is talking about are not far reaching,
SH> and are really about polishing off the object model.  Perfectly
SH> acceptable discussion for a beta cycle. 

IMO (1) we already completely rewrote the object model. It shows very good
efforts but still needs work. When i said 'Discuss the package proposal' then
i clearly meant implementing it is worth being prostponed until 5.1. But on
the contray the risk of rewriting to much or changing to much behavior is
simply to high. Therefore we should really avoid that at least by discussing
on the matter and find a consensus now.

IMO (2) many of the things mentioned in my proposal are real errors that need
to be fixed as soon as possible. If you ask me we were far to fast with beta.
But i am not really interested in the discussion what is a beta here.

IMO (3) more new features not mentioned in the proposal? No i guess we have
enough. (Just to reply)


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