On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, at 4:13 AM, Tim Düsterhus wrote: > Hi > > Am 2025-07-23 16:05, schrieb Larry Garfield: >> The only thing I'd add is that in the case of multi-option secondary >> votes, STV/RCV also be explicitly allowed. (Rank first, second, third, >> etc.). (I'm aware the mechanism for STV is kinda clunky on the wiki >> right now, but we know how to make it work.) Perhaps even encouraged >> if "do nothing" is not one of the options. > > I meant to allow any alternative forms of “majority” with the: > >> The interpretation of the result of a secondary vote, necessary >> threshold(s), and tie-breakers MUST be defined at the start of the >> voting period. > > rule, but it certainly makes sense to spell this out explicitly. I've > opted to only allow STV, because that's what is established in the > project, so participants already know how it works.
Just to clarify here, Single Transferable Vote and Ranked Choice Voting are the same thing. I think it's just another Ameircan-vs-British English question. :-) > Find the changes in the following commit: > https://github.com/TimWolla/policies/commit/0d8eaf048f9a998bcc7bf6a8c696ba5452a255ae :thumbs up emoji: >> An example of both up/down and either/or secondary votes would also be >> helpful. > > I have added an example for a plurality vote in > https://github.com/TimWolla/policies/commit/de94b7a132c4a74e54e7848914203f1849231697. > > I am having trouble with phrasing an example for a non-plurality vote > that doesn't get complicated. If you have a suggestion, I'm happy to > add > it. But a secondary vote with a 2/3 majority should already be known > from a primary vote and it's always necessary to clearly specify how > the > results of secondary votes are interpreted for an individual vote. > > Best regards > Tim Düsterhus How about this, as a following paragraph: As an STV example, a secondary vote using STV and having 5 "Foo", 4 "Bar", 8 "Baz", and 9 "Abstain" first-choice votes has no majority, so will go to a second round. "Bar" will be eliminated and those votes redistributed to second-choice options. If for example the second round result is 6 "Foo", 9 "Baz", and 11 "Abstain", then Baz will have won as it has a clear majority of non-Abstain votes cast. --Larry Garfield
