Yeah. I don't understand all those arguments anyway. Since when does it
matter what evil things you can do with a language feature? I'm seeing the
usual bs like
echo $foo[bar];
or
mysql_connect("$host", "$user", "$pass");
every second day.
Guys, you better whine about those people instead of accusing the whole
world of misusing a construct that doesn't even exist yet.
I've yet to see one single of those average, drop dead stupid designer guys
or whatever who "know PHP" to use objects properly, to use any ZE2 features,
to know what a language type is or whatever. They likely won't even notice
goto, and if they do, they'll be confused and go away. A helluva lot of PHP
"developers" are already overstrained with ternary operators or for loops
with multiple start conditions. If they're going to use goto, it might be
their doom - if so, well, I don't care at all.
I vote +1 for goto, and +712636 for ifsetor.
- David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Garber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:29 PM
> To: Jared Williams
> Cc: 'Sascha Schumann'; 'George Schlossnagle'; 'Stanislav Malyshev';
> internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.1
>
> Hello,
>
> I don't know if chiming in at this point has any merit, but here is
> what I see.
>
> We have many, many people in favor of goto and ifsetor. They see
> much legit use for those constructs.
>
> Then, we have others who say that it will result in spaghetti code.
> This is a completely invalid point because we have all seen
> spaghetti code in PHP already. Spaghetti code comes from an
> inexperienced or sloppy developer, not from cool language features.
>
> When considering what language to use in my company, I looked at the
> community and open-development that surrounds PHP. These are some
> of the reasons that I chose PHP. I am still very happy at that
> choice.
>
> The biggest thing that I see working against PHP is individuals who
> say "I don't see myself using xxxx, so you should not be ALLOWED to
> use xxxx."
>
> That being said, we need carefully evaluate the plusses and minuses
> of adding a feature:
>
> Is it's use clear?
> Does it reduce the speed of PHP?
> Does it open bizarre security holes?
> Is it useful by a reasonable percentage of developers?
> Does it solve a common problem or annoyance present in PHP?
> Does it add additional problems or annoyances to PHP?
>
> All in all, I think if everyone stops being religious about goto,
> and logically evaluates it, we can quickly come to a conclusion.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Jason mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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