--- and as was mentioned on IRC earlier, anyone who gives a damn about the
future of PHP isn't going to be someone who talks about forking it and
making rogue releases.  You _are_ trolling when you do this, and you're not
doing the reputation of the dev team any good.  I know you're one of the
good guys, I know you work like stink on the project and I know half of what
you say is tongue-in-cheek - but who else knows it?

Beside all that stuff, Jani, it's a Jewish religious holiday.  You're
attacking people who aren't around to defend themselves.  How cool is that?

Grrrr!

- Steph


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jani Taskinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Christian Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <internals@lists.php.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] $ref =& $this;


> On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Christian Schneider wrote:
>
> > Two things to consider:
> > 1) If the PHP maintainers are getting sick of BC then it might be better
> > to break BC than to lose maintainers.
>
>      Well, losing couple of trolls like me is not bad thing, is it? :)
>      But yes, if PHP can't evolve, this will happen. Either there will
>      be a fork of some sort or a "rogue" release of PHP 6..who knows.
>      We haven't decided yet. (any names for the fork are accepted :)
>
> > 2) On the other hand one should not forget that the amount of PHP4 code
> > around is much bigger than the size of the PHP source itself. So even if
> > BC is abandoned you can't simply drop PHP4 altogether (as hinted at in
> > this thread) without causing a lot of damage.
>
>      Nobody is talking about dropping PHP4. Definately no new features
>      will go into PHP 4, but bug fixes are still gonna be committed
>      once in a while. And as long as Derick is interested, there propably
>      will be even releases! :)
>
> > One possibility I see would be to have PHP<x> (insert your favourite
> > number here) drop compatibility with PHP4  and have some maintainers
> > work on PHP4 bug fixes and some on PHP6 features/bugs. It's kinda
unclear
> > what would happen to PHP5 - PHP<x-1> though its maintainers would
> > face the same BC+new-stuff situation we have right now which doesn't
> > seem to be popular.
>
>      The Plan is to release 5.1 first by Ilia since the original RMs are
too "busy".
>      We'll see what happens once we get rid of one of the branches to
maintain,
>      the PHP_5_0 branch. (outdated, not holding all the fixes, etc.)
>
>      --Jani
>
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