I could be wrong, of course, but my guess is that the ~3% speed decrease
a) is not really significant to 95% of the users (I mean _really_ significant; of course, everyone is going to whine about it first) and
b) is going to be eliminated over time


david



Am 04.12.2007 um 03:43 schrieb Ilia Alshanetsky:

First of all big thanks for Dmitry and David for spending time on this project and continuing to improve the original patch. Based on the results so far, I think the patch does have a value, but certainly not in a general case. Relative simple scripts have little to gain from it and only to loose 3-5% of speed depending on a situation and given insubstantial memory gains it seems of little use in general case. That said, there are complex applications (perhaps unnecessarily so ;-) ) that could see some real benefits from this code. My suggestion is that we make this feature a compile time flag, that's off by default and people who feel that their applications warrant a garbage collector can enable it for their install and at the same time those who don't (general case) have no penalties of having it in place.


On 3-Dec-07, at 4:01 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:

Hi all,



Was hoping to send this off earlier but I was travelling for the past
week and had very limited email access.

As promised in the past few weeks we have spent a significant amount of
time in reviewing the garbage collector work and testing it in our
performance lab. Dmitry has been exchanging ideas and patches with David
Wang during this time. Suffice to say that as I've mentioned in the
past, memory management is an extremely sensitive piece of PHP, which is
why it was important for us to review this work in great depth before
committing it to the code base.



The updated patch still retains the same algorithm as David's original implementation however the data structures have been changed in order to
work faster and use less memory.



The revised patch has the following advantages:
- It fixes several crash bugs

- Enhances performance by removing several unnecessary checks
- The memory overhead was reduced (from 12 to 4 bytes for each
heap-allocated zval)
- The speed of "clean" PHP code (code that doesn't create cycles) was
improved
- Additional test cases were created

The end result is a more stable and faster GC patch. That said we have yet to find real-life applications that create significant cycles which
would benefit from this patch. In fact as you'll see from the results
our tests show an increase in maximum memory use and slower execution
(to be fair they are marginal).



We have tested both PHP_5_3 without any patches, the original patch and
the new patch.



The following table shows execution time (seconds for N requests) and
slowdown.



        PHP_5_3

Original GC patch

Current GC patch

        



slowdown



slowdown

bench

11,550

12,310

6,58%

12,170

5,37%

hello

8,781

8,852

0,81%

8,813

0,36%

xoops

128,500

135,100

5,14%

130,200

1,32%

static

18,540

20,840

12,41%

18,920

2,05%

qdig

29,320

30,270

3,24%

29,610

0,99%

qdig2

13,960

14,100

1,00%

14,090

0,93%

The next table shows memory usage in MB and overhead



        PHP_5_3

Original GC patch

Current GC patch

        



overhead



overhead

hello

13,750

13,945

1,42%

13,765

0,11%

xoops

18,036

18,636

3,33%

18,568

2,95%

static

15,300

16,000

4,58%

15,308

0,05%

qdig

14,820

15,008

1,27%

14,828

0,05%

qdig2

14,824

15,012

1,27%

14,838

0,09%



To summarize the patch lead to approx. 5% slowdown and 3% memory
overhead for typical applications (as always, you mileage may vary
depending on your system's architecture and OS although my guesstimate is that you will see even worse results in a 64bit environment). We also
tested SugarCRM to get another sanity for these results and we got
similar results.



I am not quite sure where this leaves us with this patch. On one hand I think now the effort has been made it's a good thing to offer it as part
of PHP. The downside is of course some performance degradation and
possible instabilities as this patch continues to stabilize (it took
about two releases for us to stabilize the Zend Memory Manager even
after in-depth testing due to edge cases in allocation patterns and
various extensions, etc...).I'd be surprised if our team has found all
possible bugs.



Personally I think the decision should be either in or out. Adding this
as a compile option is not a good idea as it would create binary
compatibility issues and would be a pain for the community. I think my
inclination is to commit the patch, not have it #ifdef'ed but always
compiled but to have the garbage collection itself turned off by default (mainly for stability reasons. Note: the increased memory footprint and performance loss also exists with the collection itself turned off). We can turn it on when we're in dev for snapshots so that we iron out bugs.
That said, as you can see from the results most people and real-life
applications will be worse off than today.



Thanks to David & Dmitry for working hard on this (and everyone else who
contributed).



The stage is open for ideas/thoughts/suggestions J


Andi


Ilia Alshanetsky

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