Hi Etienne,

In general the patch looks fine.

The only thing I don't like is explicit declaration of Closure::__invode method. It won't have proper arg_info.

Thanks. Dmitry.



Etienne Kneuss wrote:
Hello,

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Etienne Kneuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

this is probably not the best time to raise concerns about __invoke
(closures) now that alpha1 is already realeased, but I believe it's
worth it.

1) I don't believe that having it thrown as another of those magic
method is a good idea. Rather, I'd like to have it represented by an
interface: Invokable. That way, type hints/checks can be done in user
land in a sane matter:

function foo(Invokable $obj) {
   $obj();
}

if ($foo instanceof Invokable) $foo();

etc..

2) Do we really want __invoke's argument to be mapped to caller
arguments. Providing an array of arguments, ala __call(Static) sounds
more consistent.
class A { public function __invoke($arg) {var_dump($arg); }} $a = new
A; $a(1,2); // int(1), currently. IMHO it should be array(1,2)


3) Do we really want to allow both static and non-static versions of __invoke ?
class A { public static function __invoke($args) { .. }} $a = new A;
$a(); being a static call to __invoke doesn't make much sense to me.


I hope these issues can be discussed and maybe addressed before a
final 5.3 release. I'm willing to do patches for all three concerns if
I sense a positive feeling towards this.

Regards,

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when they do it from a religious conviction.
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After looking deeper into it, I noticed that this interface brings a
lot of problems:

1) With the interface, the prototype is fixed.
Which means that the following are no longer possible:

Class A {
public function &__invoke(&$a, $b, $c) { return $a; }
}
$a = new A; $e =& $a($b,$c, $d);

2) __invoke($args) seems more consistent, and would give a consistent
prototype, but
2.1) references are no longer possible (1)
2.2) __invoke of actual closures/lambdas needs to map parameters for
$a = function($b,$c){}; to work properly. I don't believe $cl =
function($args){..} is something we want

So, with those counter-concerns in mind, this Invokable interface is
no longer implementable, IMO.

However, I'd still like to make closures more flexible and
internals-friendly by implementing zend_get_closure as a handler.
The only (tiny) issue here is that we export a bit more
closure-material in the engine, and it's no longer so much
self-contained in zend_closures.

Patches:
http://patches.colder.ch/Zend/zend_get_closure_handler_53.patch?markup
http://patches.colder.ch/Zend/zend_get_closure_handler_HEAD.patch?markup

ps: this patches also expose the __invoke method for reflection. (Or
is there an actual reason behind not exposing it? )

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