Hi,
So some core developers as well as lurking end users have noted that
the traffic on this list prevents them from being able to follow this
list. This is obviously a huge problem since this mailinglist is
supposed to be our primary discussion and decision making tool.
I had a chat about this with Zoe, Stephan (of symonfy fame) and Pierre
at IPC. In this discussion I got the following idea (note that I am
listing the names here in order to credit them in this idea, not
because they necessarily endorse it):
What if we have two lists for internal discussions. One which is just
as open as the current one and one that is moderated. People with
commit karma for php-src (and maybe also phpdoc) get unmoderated
access. However this obviously creates the issue that the community
and newcomers will have a much harder time to get in contact with the
core development team. As the list is moderated, it would require
people to manually allow the given posts. This creates a bottleneck
which would also create considerable work for those moderators.
Here I come to the key part of my idea. We would allow every PHP
usergroup to also appoint one person that gets unmoderated access to
the list. This enables members of the usergroup to feed their ideas
via that person directly to the list, taking load of the list
moderators and ensuring that things a given UG deem important are not
lost in this process. Furthermore this intermediate step would serve
to throttle the traffic and make the numbers of posters (their writing
style and expertise) more easily transparent to other posters (but
more importantly to the readers). I am sure this will help reduce
misunderstandings and more importantly result in a more friendly tone
(its just natural for people to feel overwhelmed by too large a crowd).
As a side bonus, we strengthen UGs around the world. This will
hopefully lead to better communication channels between internals and
active community members. It will certainly ease the organization of
future testfests (or docfrenzy's) as we will then have contact people
to talk to as well as more of an incentive for people to join their
local UG. I would not want to try to come to a closed definition of
what constitutes a UG. Lets just create an interface were people can
register their UG and manage the email address for the contact person
(and maybe a few other things like their website etc). People can
create physical UGs as well as virtual UGs for all I care. If we
notice that this liberal approach gets abused (people faking UGs to
get direct access and more voting rights) we can decide on taking some
protective measures. But for now lets just assume that everybody in
the community understands the beauty of such a liberal approach.
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Just like in my previous email. Please all try to focus on sending
high quality replies to this list. So lets all restrain ourselves and
wait a bit longer than usual before replying. Maybe someone else will
already make the point you want to make and in the mean time you can
think things over and optimize your message.
regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS: I have published the above text as an RFC on the wiki ..
http://wiki.php.net/rfc/managinglisttraffic
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