I don't think the strong/weak stuff is necessary at all.  Either a
programmer cares about datatype or they don't and the vast, vast
majority won't.

Declaring a variable's datatype should have the effect of locking that
variable's datatype down and not allowing it to switch types with the
sole exception of NULL.

Trying to declare a degree of strength to the typing is severe
overkill.  I recognize that I suggested this in my first proposal, but
at this point I'm opposed to it.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Kris Craig <kris.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that's a bit of a stretch, to say the least.  The same argument
> could be made that PHP 5's introduction of stronger OO implementation would
> have scared this person away.  The fact is, we don't know that either of
> them would have.  For one thing, I doubt he monitored the PHP Internals
> list; if he had, that in and of itself would have been enough to scare him
> away lol.  If strict typing was the norm, then yeah it probably would have
> scared him off.  But adding optional typing, which is what we've been
> discussing here?  I seriously doubt it.
>
> --Kris
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Richard Lynch <c...@l-i-e.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, February 28, 2012 3:31 am, Arvids Godjuks wrote:
>> > I really liked what the O'Raily wrote here:
>> >
>> http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reasons_i_switched_back_to_p_1.html
>>
>> Please note that the author was a bass player in a band wanting to
>> sell CDs online when the five (5) choices were the same
>> brick-and-mortar major label distributors who wouldn't take his CD as
>> he wasn't on a major label.
>>
>> He examined the options, and PHP was the only one that didn't make his
>> head spin.
>>
>> His act of creating a single page to sell his CD online went viral,
>> and he accidentally built a multi-million dollar company because of
>> that.
>>
>> Since he'd never set out to make the money, just to help his friends
>> (and they told 2 friends, and they told 2 friends...) he always
>> tracked success not by not, nor gross, but by dollars paid out to
>> artists[1]
>>
>> He eventually sold the company to a trust fund that goes to charity
>> when he dies, and lives very comfortably off the interest, since he
>> lost interest in running the company when it just got too routine.[2]
>>
>> If he had seen this strict/weak/strong stuff in PHP, that online CD
>> store for the indie artists would probably not have existed for quite
>> a long time, if ever.
>>
>> He's actually been online a long time, and is worth learning from,
>> even if he never actually became a Real Programmer (tm), in his own
>> words.
>>
>> PS
>> You can find many conversations between him and me on the old, old,
>> old PHP list before the split of the lists into -general etc.
>>
>> [1] http://www.cdbaby.com/About
>> [2] http://sivers.org/trust
>>
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>> http://richardlynch.blogspot.com/search/label/brain%20tumor
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