On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@sugarcrm.com>wrote:
> So if something is a question which needs > discussion, it is proper to raise it to the list, that doesn't mean > automatically it's considered not important or not worth fixing - quite > the contrary, raising it on the list makes sure more people are aware of > it and can participate in solving it. Ok, point taken. > > The "non-free" part of the archive is only a last resort solution. When > you > > move something to non-free, you also need to move any package that > > depends into a contrib part of the archive, and that would be much worse > > than replacing embedded json extension with the pecl that Remi wrote. > > Could you describe the reasons why it would be much worse? I.e. how the > user experience changes, what additional actions, if any, users would > have to do, etc.? Snippet from Debian Developers manual: > Packages which do not conform to the DFSG are placed in the non-free section. These packages are *not considered as part of the Debian distribution*, though we enable their use, and we provide infrastructure (such as our bug-tracking system and mailing lists) for non-free software packages. Also non-free (and contrib) are not enabled by default (I think), so people would have to modify their apt/sources.lists to enable the extra archive. Any package depending on php5 would have to be moved to the contrib/ section (again not enabled by default), e.g. every packaged extension and every packaged web app. That's simply not going to fly just because of JSON extension. It could happen only if you have relicenced whole PHP under some non-free license and were not willing to relicense it back (but I think in this case somebody would fork PHP as it happened to some other big projects before - f.e. XFree86 vs Xorg). And I even don't want to imagine the scale of the fallout from such transfer from main to non-free for PHP. I am asking this because right now as far as I can see > while json-c is in good shape, it has certain performance issues and > compatibility issues. I hope they would be fixed, but I think we need to > have all the options laid out before us to evaluate. Well, basically the pecl-json-c is now a default provider of JSON extension in Debian (and Fedora) and the downstream distributions (Ubuntu, RHEL, ...). And I don't even know if Fedora has similar place to put non-free packages. O. -- Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org> Have you tried Knot DNS – https://www.knot-dns.cz/ – a high-performance authoritative-only DNS server
