On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:34 AM, François Laupretre <franc...@php.net> wrote: > So, let's analyze what happened when I was accused of 'sabotage' and > 'strong-arming' because I had sent a supposedly offending mail to Sara. In > my reply, I published the mail in question so that everyone could judge by > itself whether it was offending or not. I'm glad we didn't have a PHP > official SJW team because it would have probably denied me the right to > publish the message, for confidentiality reasons. So, instead of putting the > case in the public space where everyone could see that the accusation was > highly exagerated, I would have been judged by 5 people who could have > banned me on subjective matters (let's not underestimate cultural > differences here). > I'm glad you brought this back up, but you seem to have remembered a few things incorrectly.
First, I didn't accuse you of anything. My response to your private email, was a private email back saying "hey, I don't know why you're so angry and name-cally, but go ahead and move forward with your version. I just didn't want it to get left on the floor as someone else's problem". So your claim that, had a response team been in place, you'd have been summarily sanctioned by a cadre of social justice warriors is false from the first word, because no complaint would have been filed. Second, you seem very confident that having posted your email publicly, you've been exonerated by the list (as well you should be, because it was a non-issue to begin with). Why are you so convinced that the four out of five people who managed to get a 2/3rd majority vote of confidence to be on this response team would not be as reasonable as the public at large? Nobody is suggesting that they be hand-picked for their shoot first, shoot second, shoot some more, and maybe if anyone is still alive ask a question or two, guilty until proven innocent bias. So that claim is false as well. Third, purely for the sake of argument, let's say I *had* made some formal complaint. That accusation would have been confined to the response team, you, and I. Ask yourself if you prefer a small audience for an easily defensible accusation, or a large one. I would prefer a small audience. > So, I'm all for a mediation team, but no sanction, even temporary, without a > public vote. > I'm glad you and I agree on this. -Sara -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
