Hello all - I am a US Citizen. More Orwellian nightmares:
I work in television. The scariest thing imaginable. Though my next statement paints things in a broad stroke -- keep in mind that anything dealing with people functioning as a group must be stated in broad strokes, regardelss of the inndividuals that may make up that group - myself included: What I see in the US is the perfect climate for populace control. What I see every day is a populace that things the same, yet in which no one talks to one another. What more could one ask for if one wanted to controll the people!! --------- A second statement: Any attrocity committed in the Americas, since at least the mid-1800's, has been at the hands of the US Government, for the benefit of a small but powerful unelected group of individuals, yet done in the Name of the People or thier Security. Scary. I believe in the Princibles of Democrecy and Freedom that my country was founded upon. Sadly, I do not see those things prospering here. It is not the sole fault of this current administration, yet the direction that this administration is leading us is even further away from those ideals that we currently are, or ever have been. This saddens me greatly. I would consider leaving (and I have a legitimate, though not exercised, claim on another citizenship), yet I still have not seen a better place to go. We are living in a Global Economy, and a Global Political Arena. What is done here affects the whole rest of the World, whether we, or anyone else, likes it or not. If I were given power today to change all this, I am not certain what could be done. I have no solutions. But I believe that the only way I can see solutions being found is through great effort and cooperation between nations. Again, it saddens me that my country has been turning its back on old friendships, and new alike, at the first sign of dissent. Democrecy is about finding compromise when people dissagree. Freedom is earned through taking responsability for one's own actions. I am glad that this community is so diverse. Thank you. -pfv ----- Original Message ----- From: cocteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [inthenight] do not read this if you do not want to hear abou t politics > Hi > > Just to add to this. Not only has Bush invaded Iraq for > no other > appearent reason than oil, same thing happened in Afghanistan, and > I'm > sorry if I'm stepping on a few toes here, but yes, it was a > tradegy that > 3.000 Americans died in the september 11 attacks, but more than > ten times > that number of Afghans died during the first 14 of warfare. It was > a much > worse attrocity that the government at the time used this as an > excuse to > invade a country for oil. I base this on the fact that the Taleban > soldiers > were CIA trained, the leaders had been i Texas during the 80's to > attend a > meeting between (you guessed it) George and the leaders of Exxon > to > negotiate a pipeline deal, which eventually turned sour. After the > campaign > in Afghanistan the temporary leader of the Afghan government was a > man who > had worked as a consultant for Exxon previously. > On another note. George Orwell writes in 1984 that a > perfect way > to control a population is to keep them in a state of constant > fear, and > the best way to do this is through a war. Real or fictitious, > doesn't > matter. Well here's what George waid in his address to congress > the 20th of > September 2001: "Our war on terror begins with Al Quida but it > does not end > there. It will not end untill every terrorist group of global > reach, has > been found, stopped and defeated" and "Americans should not expect > one > batttle, but a lengthy campaign ... unlike any other we have ever > seen". Other items of interest include: Dick Chaney being > on the board of > the company who sold North Korea the parts it needed to build its > nuclear > reactor. One member of the bush cambinet (can't remember who right > now) has > voted against abortion, even the case of rape and incest. The US > is calling > it an atrocity that socalled rogue states are developing nuclear > weapons > when they have the most in the world, more than 10.000 warheads. > Britain is > second with "only" a few hundred. > I'm not saying that this is the fault of the american > people. I > take comfort in the fact that the majority of you guys didn't even > vote for > him. But there is something very wrong with the elite of the > american > society. I heard a former leader of the CIA justify the > assassination of > Allende that you spoke of, because otherwise chile would have been > "lost" > to the socialists. > I'll finish this off with a quote by Bill Hicks, an all > the way > through good american citizen who said about the first gulf war > (and it can > be applied to almost every single political war, rigged election > and other > mess the US have been involved in): > "Well how did you know they had weapons of mass destruction? > We looked at the receipt" > > > kenneth > > > > > At 20:41 15-01-2004, you wrote: > >bush.... > > > >i don't know how it may be if you're gringo (sorry, > >but i am also american, i live in this continent), but > >when you're mexican (and i guess latinoamerican in > >general) you can really appreciate mr. bush as one of > >the greatest bastards in recent world history... > > > >may be he's done great things within USA (like hunting > >down inmigrants who, by the way- cross illegaly the > >river and or the desert in order to wash bathrooms for > >some dollars); but, Afghanistan, Irak, Palestina and > >Am�rica Latina (to name but a few) have suffered him > >as an apocayptic beast. > > > >lucifer or morgoth themselves didn't do so much wrong > >to their worlds in their particular histories as this > >one has... and morgoth was an EVIL GOD... > > > >although, i must recognize, he hasn't done this alone. > >it's quite easier to see USA as an evil empire in > >itself, like a a gringo government's tradition, with > >ist CIA and FBI, and DEA and WAll Street and Congress > >and Republicans and Democrats, getting their noses in > >every country around the world... > > > >you know, they hunted (much like an animal) Ernesto > >"Che" Guevara" in the bolivian jungle some 30 years > >ago, just for "fear of the spreading of communism", > >the same reason to murder legitimate president > >Salvador Allende in 60's Chile, in order to establish > >a militar dictatorship... > > > >now, irak with its unfound massive destruction weapons > >was a serious threat to world peace... and then why > >USA may posses such weapons?, god granted them the > >right and responsability of ruling the world?; well > >China also posseses such weapons, but i guess it's > >quite difficult to invade a country in which one > >quarter of the world population lives... > > > >finally, i don't blame every single gringo for this. > >as individuals they are not to be blamed (i even have > >a couple of gtingo friends), but as a species.... > > > >whatever, salud! > > > >p.d. taco bell doesn't sell real tacos, must mexicans > >get sick of the idea of eating such crap... > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! 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