> but there is a lot of research that quantifies problems with > mice and how they're used. I recommend [...]
Not sure, I suspect you have lost *focus* a bit. I have mentioned: TOOLS. (Re-read the thread, perhaps.) > context switching between keyboard and mouse is worse than > using either alone Thank you very much. But let us not start measuring the microvolts over a noise in the order of the volts. Example: better to go from, say, Helsinki to Zurich via the railway--don't take an airplane! I can't tell for Finland. (Incidentally, Finns seem to be, willingly or not, I ignore, those *fools* who are *testing* the snake-oil/baloney thing with the *bio*- [sigh] fuel: *thank you* from the countries such Indonesia, who will then take the bait, pay your bill eventually [see below also], and keep stuck in more shit for the next decades.) But for Switzerland I know. Kloten [Zurich's main airport] is 30 km from the center of the city, while the *Hauptbahnhof*, the main station of the railway, is situated--surprise--in the center directly. If you are going to Zurich from Finland, and take the train, you will spare you a *context switch* [Kloten-Zurich] at the least. (Maybe even two, depending from Helsinki.) QED, and end of example. > Fitt's Law (and all of the other things we *know* about > humans using visual interfaces) and how so many interfaces > ignore it I am *lucky* (like most people too, well): I am right-handed! Would I have been left-handed instead, I would not--I mean, not with this notebook I am using right now and like VERY MUCH--be able to keep the mouse 10-15 cm on the right of the keyboard. Hence, I can touch with the right little finger the mouse from the keyboard most of the time, with not much a greater effort than when I reach with the left little finger the escape-taste on the top-left of the keyboard. (I don't have hands a' la basketball player, just in case.) As a left-handed I would [I am imagining] need as minimum to keep the mouse at a diagonal [> 10-15 cm ... Pythagoras simplified: a**2 + b**2 = c**2] from the keyboard: on the left of the notebook there is [not at all a bad idea] the fan's exhaust--hot air is blown out. And as left-handed, I would also not be able to plug a notebook LEDs' lamp in the USB port [the notebook thankfully has a total of four USB ports] on the left ... notebook lamp which, beyond increasing contrast [blueish light] on the keyboard, also warranties that I can't pull/shift inadvertently. a, say, book immediately in the front of the exhaust, obstructing it. Then; I have *invested* a bit, I have bought a Logitech mouse [I am Swiss, but have no relations with with Logitech]. Logitech is not the cheapest in general. On the other hand, Logitech knows well how to design GOOD mice. (With time, I am even planing to take more fun with the mice: a battery status indicator to display on the screen [I have seen a project for a Logitech mouse already]; and a wheel who responds ... for now I can live without these, and have other priorities.) But I am digressing. Back to the point. Sorry, and with all respect speaking: to which users of an *interface* are you thinking: to hemi- or paraplegic ones? I use a vi-like editor EVERYWHERE I can. And don't hesitate to grasp the mouse EVERY TIME it makes sense--which it happens often enough. The mouse sustains/complements well vi, I have not noticed *problems*. Have you ever seen "Teddy's" [Adorno's], or, even better, Karl Marx's pictures of handwritten notes and originals? (I have hold on my hands a [mechanical] typing-machine written page by Max Frisch, typed *en vitesse* [read: average] speed: it had two-three ball-pen made amendments only.) Guess, you would hardly seek for *millions* of corrections and retouches [context-switches] in these documents. And how do you edit: hiccup-, or saccadic style? I am too extreme? Not sure. Dijkstra^1 tells: --"Besides mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."-- And he is quite likely right. (Actually, there are two pleonasms, I believe, in Dijkstra's sentence, but never mind; moreover, and just in case, my own *native tongue* is Italian.) Moral: don't worry too much on *context-switching*. > the only really solid occupation use study of repetitive > stress injuries found that it was *mouse and keyboard* > use, not keyboard use alone, that was a good predictor of > medical problems... Oh please. I live in Indonesia. Spare me the joke of the *stress injuries* because of the use of the *mouse and the keyboard*. (Indonesia and ditto for: China, Thailand, India ... have we reached half of the world population already?) It's like you were talking of *manicure* in an ICU [intensive care unit] of an hospital. What about the hemorrhoids' injuries for those who sit too much, are mice bad? 8-) Cheers, /Roy 1. Edsger W. Dijkstra, Selected Writings on Computing: A Personal Perspective (Springer, etc.) Notice that Dijkstra also says: --"About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It's equally vain to try do it with ten blunt axes instead."-- [R.L.: if you can't write/organize yourself logically, it's not by zeroing context-switches that you will improve the situation.] -- SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS tak ada rotan, akar pun jadi SSSSS . s l a c k w a r e SSSSSS no rattans, roots will do [if you are SSSSS +------------ linux SSSSSS desperate, you must not be choosy] SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS