Hi,

I would suggest that we first see how the proposed process works (every 
maintainer checks frequently the tickets for his/her components).
May be the triage meetings are not really needed - in the end the maintainers 
of the modules should know which bugs need to be prioritised.
Triage meetings introduce quite some overhead in the end - having lots of 
people spend time with issues they have no clue about :-)

Looks as if the discussion about the whole ?old bugs in Jira? was derailed as 
there was a mix up between
the process "how to deal with issues from now on" - and "how to deal with the 
ones left over from the past".
Again - I would just recommend to have a look at the two wiki pages to check if 
there are any further comments.

https://wiki.iotivity.org/jira_proposed_changes
https://wiki.iotivity.org/jira_how_to_use

thanks
 Christian


On 5 Apr 2017, at 03:57, ??? (Uze Choi) <uzchoi at samsung.com<mailto:uzchoi at 
samsung.com>> wrote:

Can we use the slack tool for triage purpose?
It works well here, I confirmed.

BR, Uze Choi
-----Original Message-----
From: ??? (Uze Choi) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 1:27 PM
To: 'Christian Gran'; 'Mats Wichmann'; 'Gregg Reynolds'; 'iotivity-
dev at lists.iotivity.org<mailto:dev at lists.iotivity.org>'
Subject: RE: [dev] Jira cleanup

Triage meeting across different time zone thru CC looks very challenging
topic.
Specially maintainers in India and PST zone are not easy to meeting
simultaneously.
Slack was proposed to communicate all together, even though which is
against some company security policy.
Let's check this tool is acceptable from each company by default or after
additional internal process.

BR, Uze Choi
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Of Christian Gran
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:23 AM
To: Mats Wichmann; Gregg Reynolds; iotivity-dev at 
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Subject: Re: [dev] Jira cleanup

Hi,

sounds as if we are on the same page here. Tickets need to be looked at
regularly.
Current Jira has tickets going back to 2014 (last updated).

thanks
 Christian

On 26 Mar 2017, at 19:29, Mats Wichmann <mats at wichmann.us<mailto:mats at 
wichmann.us>> wrote:

On 03/26/2017 01:21 AM, Christian Gran wrote:
Hi,

Having so many outdated tickets makes planning really difficult - you
are right this is a management issue - and we have to manage our releases.
We need to tell OCF and others when we have which releases and which
features and tickets are in it.

Now that reasoning just sounds silly: one of the most common reasons
for liking Jira (and thus for "management" being willing to pay for
it, over the multitude of free ticketing systems) is its reporting
capability.
Surely we can do a simple thing like extract the tickets tagged for a
particular release without it being affected by whether there are
other tickets not tagged for that release?



I'd also like to add support for having regular triage.  I know a
meeting will be tricky to schedule with the timezones. The purpose of
triage is why that term is chosen - get a quick look at things and
decide what needs to happen right away, what can wait, how to
categorize it, etc.  It's really frustrating if you take the time to
write up a bug and *nothing* happens with it; it should never be a
long time before at least a first reaction takes place.


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