As mentioned in email I sent a week or two back, this is 
related to the issue of whether a link-local address has to be 
unique across an entire subnet, not just a link.  Today it's 
defined as a "link-local" not a "subnet-local" address.  This 
means that it is not guaranteed to be unique across a subnet.

Manually configured global addresses don't need to require
rights to the corresponding link-local address since
a) it's not necessary as they don't use the link-local address,
b) it's not sufficient since they need to be unique across the
   subnet, not just the link.

So unless you're proposing we redefine "link-local" addresses
as "subnet-local" addresses (which would at least be a
consistent argument, albeit a change to the architecture),
then what you suggest does not seem to me to be the right solution.

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:45 AM
> To: Richard Draves
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; IPng Working Group
> Subject: Re: RFC 2462 DAD optimization
> 
> 
> Hello Richard,
> 
> Even manually configured global addresses should be required
> to acquire rights to the corresponding link-local address.  Why not?
> 
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
> 
> 
> Richard Draves wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. I think the problem is in the RFC 2462 optimization. The
RFC
> > 2462 optimization also can fail with manually-configured addresses -
> > it's not just a problem with RFC 3041 temporary addresses.
> >
> > I'm curious about the implementation status. I know the Windows
> > implementation does not implement the RFC 2462 optimization - it
> > performs DAD on every address independently. What about other
> > implementations?
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:03 AM
> > > To: Hesham Soliman (ERA)
> > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; 'IPng Working Group '
> > > Subject: Re: [mobile-ip] Issue #23 and Issue #30
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Hesham,
> > >
> > > "Hesham Soliman (ERA)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > => RFC 2462 makes an optimisation (not a good
> > > > one IMHO) that if a node does DAD on link-local
> > > > addresses, it 'owns the interface id' for any other
> > > > address with any scope.
> > >
> > > I think this is a good idea.
> > >
> > > > RFC3041 says that a node can generate a new iid
> > > > and does DAD for _that_ address which uses the
> > > > new iid. Since this is typically not a link local
> > > > address, you could get a conflict if the HA
> > > > does not defend all addresses.
> > >
> > > The problem is that RFC 3041 should require any
> > > such node to first acquire rights to the link-local
> > > address.  I hope that is viewed as an omission, and
> > > one which can be quickly repaired.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Charlie P.
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