I feel that we need to "revive" this thread. If we include, for example, in the node-requirements, that one of the IPv6 node requirements is to "avoid" the support of NAT or any other kind of address translation mechanism (I'm not suggesting exactly this way to say it), any vendor that do that, can be "banned" by the community and the Interop/Conformance test, because he is not complying with the specs.
Some still will do that, but we can then tell the network managers and users, that the product is NOT IETF complaint. Regards, Jordi ----- Original Message ----- From: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: avoiding NAT with IPv6 > After the today's decision with site local, is clear to me that we don't want to > have NAT happening again ;-) > > We know that the people will do it anyway, but we must do an effort to avoid is as > much as possible, and some ideas that could > support this are: > > 1) Clearly show the advantages of end-to-end and no NAT model. > 2) Have the specs indicating that an IPv6 node (host/router, whatever) MUST NOT > support NAT or equivalent mechanisms. Any > interoperability/conformance test must fail if you fail to agree with this > specification. This should be a clear sign for the > manufacturers to avoid supporting NATs. > 3) Indicate that if someone wants to keep using NAT, should do it with IPv4. > > I'm not sure if the rest agree and what is the correct document to say this, may be > as part of the changes for the local-link > deprecation ? > > Regards, > Jordi > > > ***************************** > Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit > 12-14 May 2003 - Register at: > http://www.ipv6-es.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List > IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng > FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng > Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ***************************** > Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit > 12-14 May 2003 - Register at: > http://www.ipv6-es.com > > ***************************** Madrid 2003 Global IPv6 Summit Presentations and videos on-line at: http://www.ipv6-es.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
