gabriel montenegro wrote:

>I'll just comment on one item below:
>
>> As the draft says this is mostly meant for stateful devices, and that
>> has been the main goal for the document. The charter says:
>>
>> "A standards-track mechanism that allows an intermediary device, such
>> as a firewall or intrusion detection system ..."
>>
>> I.e. the main goal was set to be on the devices doing deeper
>> inspection i.e. firewalls and intrusion detection systems.
>
>Disagree completely. The charter item is a general one for intermediary devices
>(some of which are and are expected to continue being stateless).
>
>The above was just an example.

OK, so give us a counter-example. Why would a stateless device want to be able 
to tell the difference between ESP-AES-CBC and ESP-NULL.  What policy is it 
trying to enforce?




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