During the last 3GPP SA3 meeting, such requirement about HNB has also
been approved as well.

thanks

-Hui

2009/12/1 Yoav Nir <y...@checkpoint.com>:
> There were several motivations listed for childless IKE SAs.
>  - remote access, where you create an IKE SA when the user wants to connect, 
> and only create child SAs in response to traffic
>  - authentication only over a physically secure network (not necessarily EAP, 
> but I think this is the use case you referred to)
>  - Location awareness (as in the SecureBeacon draft)
>  - Some "weird" uses such as liveness checks without IPsec, NAT detection, 
> etc.
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
>
>> One of the (or main?) motivations of this proposal is to turn IKEv2 into
>> "EAP-based network access authentication protocol".  RFC 5191 is designed
>> for that purpose, and I'm not sure if we need to twist a protocol for the
>> same purpose.
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Yaron Sheffer
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:21 PM
>>> To: ipsec@ietf.org
>>> Subject: [IPsec] Proposed work item: Childless IKE SA
>>>
>>> This draft proposes an IKEv2 extension to allow the setup of an IKE SA
>>> with no Child SA, a situation which is currently disallowed by the
>>> protocol.
>>>
>>> Proposed starting point: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nir-ipsecme-
>>> childless-01.txt.
>>>
>>> Please reply to the list:
>>>
>>> - If this proposal is accepted as a WG work item, are you committing to
>>> review multiple versions of the draft?
>>> - Are you willing to contribute text to the draft?
>>> - Would you like to co-author it?
>>>
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>>>
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>>> time on.
>>>
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>>> fine technical details (which will change anyway, once the WG gets hold
>>> of the draft); instead explain why this is uninteresting for the WG or
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