This IPR disclosure is relevant to this discussion:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/63/

Thanks,
--David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 -
> MITLL
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:26 AM
> To: 'pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz'
> Cc: 'ipsec@ietf.org'; 'c...@irtf.org'
> Subject: Re: [IPsec] [Cfrg] Beginning discussion on secure
password-only authentication for IKEv2
> 
> You're good!  :-)
> 
> On the vendor side - perhaps EKE patent concern was the cause (you
implement/sell free SRP and get
> slapped with EKE licensing)? And the users found alternative solutions
in the meanwhile?
> 
> Do you think weak passwords are too dangerous overall (many other ways
of attacking them outside of
> direct protocol attempts that we try to defend against), and so we
shouldn't entertain them at all?
> 
> Tnx!
> Regards,
> Uri
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pgut001 <pgut...@wintermute02.cs.auckland.ac.nz>
> To: s...@cs.columbia.edu <s...@cs.columbia.edu>; Blumenthal, Uri - 0662
- MITLL
> Cc: c...@irtf.org <c...@irtf.org>; hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net
<hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net>;
> ipsec@ietf.org <ipsec@ietf.org>; paul.hoff...@vpnc.org
<paul.hoff...@vpnc.org>
> Sent: Tue Mar 02 19:41:43 2010
> Subject: Re: [Cfrg] [IPsec] Beginning discussion on secure
password-only authentication for IKEv2
> 
> "Steven M. Bellovin" <s...@cs.columbia.edu> writes:
> 
> >Note that the EKE patent expires in October 2011.  (At least I think
it does;
> >it was filed in October 1991.)  Depending on when you expect
implementations
> >to appear-- and given how long it takes to produce standards-track
documents
> >in the IETF -- it might not be a problem.
> 
> Given that SRP implementations have been available and more or less
freely
> usable for quite some time and TLS-PSK is completely unencumbered
anyway, I
> think the real issue won't be "when will implementations appear" but
"why
> isn't anyone using them when they are available"?
> 
> (Mind you that's a layer 8 issue, and therefore not our problem :-).
> 
> Peter.
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