Of course, you're right. The acronym DMVPN makes this
a very bad choice. Thanks for pointing that out.

I'll throw out a few ideas here:

Dynamic Direct VPN (DDVPN)
Shortcut VPN (SVPN)
Dynamic Scalable VPN (DSVPN)
Dynamic Efficient VPN (DEVPN)

Other ideas or comments on these are most welcome.

Thanks,

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Sullenberger [mailto:m...@cisco.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 6:57 PM
> To: Stephen Hanna
> Cc: ipsec@ietf.org; chris.ulli...@cesg.gsi.gov.uk
> Subject: Re: [IPsec] P2P VPN draft UNCLASSIFIED
> 
> Steve,
> 
> I do not think changing the name to "Dynamic Mesh VPN" is a good idea.
> The first thing that is going to happen is that it is going to be
> shortened to "DMVPN" and then we have conflict with Cisco DMVPN, which
> would be confusing and also "DMVPN" is a registered trademark.  It
> would be best to use some other synonym for "Dynamic Mesh".
> 
> Mike.
> 
> >Upon reflection, I can see how "Point to Point VPNs" is problematic
> >as a description of the problem. Really it's more about dynamically
> >creating SAs so that any endpoint or gateway can communicate directly
> >with any other, as permitted by policy. And how can we do this in a
> >manageable manner in a large-scale environment where endpoints are
> >mobile and configurations and policies change often?
> >
> >So "Dynamic Mesh VPNs" is fine with me. Whatever the WG feels is best.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Ulliott, Chris
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:53 PM
> >> To: 'ipsec@ietf.org'
> >> Subject: Re: [IPsec] P2P VPN draft UNCLASSIFIED
> >>
> >> Classification:UNCLASSIFIED
> >>
> >> How about "dynamic mesh VPNs" as a title as I think the dynamic part
> is
> >> key here and probably an important aspect of the use cases.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> [This message has been sent by a mobile device]
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Yaron Sheffer [mailto:yaronf.i...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 09:17 PM
> >> To: IPsecme WG <ipsec@ietf.org>
> >> Subject: [IPsec] P2P VPN draft
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> a few initial comments.
> >>
> >>   * The draft is short and clear. Thanks for that!
> >>   * I have a problem with the title (and even more, with the "file
> >>     name" of the draft). P2P is usually perceived as peer-to-peer,
> >>     which skews the discussion towards one particular use case, that
> >>     of endpoint-to-endpoint. I suggest to use "Mesh IPsec VPN"
> instead.
> >>   * I am unclear about 2.2: so what if you "suddenly need to
> exchange a
> >>     lot of data". How is it different from normal IP traffic load
> >>     management? The text is simply too vague here. Ideally, should
> we
> >>     expect the traffic to migrate to other gateways? To go directly
> >>     between endpoints? To establish priorities on existing gateways?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>      Yaron
> 
> 
> +------------------------------------------------+
> | Mike Sullenberger; DSE                         |
> | m...@cisco.com                .:|:.:|:.         |
> | Customer Advocacy              CISCO           |
> +------------------------------------------------+
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