On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 9:12 AM Michael Richardson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> > Or use IPTFS and set your own max packet size sufficiently low?
>     >>
>     >> I think that this is the killer app for IPTFS.
>     >>
>
>     > But of course this means either IPTFS should be able to auto-tune
> this,
>     > or else we end up with hardcoded configs that might stop working or
>     > cause future problems.
>
> I think that the ESPping mechanism is the right way to do "PLPMTUD" for
> IPTFS.
> (for the outer MTU)
>
I also think so.

>
>     >> > I'm not convinced doing this between IPsec peers will solve any
> real
>     >> > use cases.
>     >>
>     >> I am also skeptical, but I don't object to the work getting
>     >> standardized.
>     >>
>     >> In particular, for networks where there are MTU constraints on the
> far
>     >> side of the far gateway, telling the sending gateway about the MTU
> has
>     >> a far higher chance of working than anything else.  The sending
>     >> gateway probably can send PTB ICMPs with better results.
>
>     > There would need to be dynamic updating, kernel <-> userland
>     > communications, etc.  Just hardcoding this in an ikev2 configuration
>     > would be pretty bad.
>
> yeah, I don't know exactly how to do the userland communication.
> How specific does it need to be is my question?  How express that.
> Looking at mtu-dect, I'm unclear how the LMAP and and PTB describe the flow
> which has the MTU concern.  It's mostly clear when it appears along with
> TSx
> that it applies to that traffic, but not for the other notifications.
>
>
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> Michael Richardson <[email protected]>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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