My comment "this shouldn't block draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-mlkem was aimed at 
the working group, and not to the draft authors.

That said, to the working group, what is blocking 
draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-mlkem?  The draft is needed, quite straight-forward, 
and there are interoperable implementations out there.  What's stopping us?

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From: Valery Smyslov <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2025 3:54 AM
To: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) <[email protected]>; 'ipsec' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [IPsec] draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-downgrade-prevention


Hi Scott,



thank you for this review.



  *   It would appear to me that draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-mlkem is being 
blocked because of this.  If my perception is correct, I don't see the reason 
behind this; this attack would be possible without any PQ algorithm at all 
(e.g. The policy states that group 19 is preferred, but group 1 is allowed), 
and there is nothing that draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-mlkem could do to address 
this attack in the first place.

By no meant this draft should block draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-mlkem.



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