Hi all,

It was suggested in [1] that pre-shared keys ought to provide a partial
defense against downgrade attacks, and that we should note this in
draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-downgrade-prevention. I've put up a PR for this
and would appreciate feedback from the WG:
https://github.com/smyslov/ikev2-downgrade-prevention/pull/7

A couple of things to clarify from the previous thread:

1. Valery pointed out that the use of a pre-shared key is usually
negotiated by an extension, and this negotiation is itself subject to
downgrade attack. It is therefore necessary for the use of the pre-shared
key to be mandatory.

2. I claimed that RFC 8784 would not provide forward secrecy in light of
this attack [2]. I'm now less certain about this: the pre-shared key ought
to provide sufficient protection against the attack as long as it's mixed
in prior to the IKE_AUTH (and IKE_INTERMEDIATE?) exchange. I apologize if I
inadvertently mislead anyone here.

Best,
Chris P.

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/7SJIUgJuOvGcKimdEkJaD-qDWu0/
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/NrOhC8pHldOUj-0DeHt7l7-v_20/
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