On 18/02/15 09:29, Anfinsen, Ragnar wrote:

A quick example; A good friend of mine is developing a smart
fireplace which can be controlled via API's. He do use a 3. party
development company to make the controller and API's. They did not
even think of IPv6 until I did my 5 minute speech about the

Don't get me started on SCADA systems.

Based on our own experience here, the companies that make this kind of equipment are, by and large, wilfully ignorant - and I choose those words after careful consideration - of the most basic aspects of networking.

It is frightening how badly designed some of this equipment is, and very, very scary how much of it wants to sit on public IP space to "talk to the cloud part of the service" these days.

At some point in the next decade, I anticipate enterprise IT departments doing internal charging for SCADA systems which need public IPv4 space; we have seen proposals for >500 SCADA nodes needing public IPs in a single building. New systems, new to market, designed by companies considered "market leaders" in the product space.

There is a woeful lack of ability in this bit of the industry. I'd love a big player to come in and blow the market sky high.

Cheers,
Phil

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