For those who were not in the room this evening, my comments were that the
complaints on the list about the draft fall into a couple of broad
categories:
One class basically intends to tell people how to run their networks. The
IETF defines how the protocols work, not how individual networks are run.
I've responded to this in a separate message.
Another class basically ignores the reality that network managers will deploy address space for local use, no matter what the IETF does.
you might be right, but our job is produce designs that actually work. what you are proposing is that we abandon that task, on the assumption that users will break what we do anyway. if you feel that this effort is a waste of your time feel free to concentrate your energies in other directions, but don't expect us the rest of us to give up simply because of your speculation.
One comment I did have though was the delay of the milestone as presented by the
chairs due to comments seems inappropriate since neither Fred nor I know of
any outstanding issues.
other than that the set of constraints you wish to impose are unworkable?
This document is detailing the reasons that
individual network managers use private address space. It really doesn't
matter if the IETF believes they are wrong, this is what they do and will
continue to do to meet their requirements.
this is just a re-expression of the myth that everything in IPv6 has to be done like it was done in IPv4. managers can choose to use IPv6 or not based on whether they think IPv6 suits their needs. but if they choose to use IPv6 and expect IPv6 to work well even though they are using IPv6 in a way that conflicts with its design, they're deluded. individuals and vendors who encourage such delusions are not doing their audiences a service.
Since consistency plays a significant role in recurring operational costs, to achieve any deployment, the various proposals suggesting that the IETF provide a pile of
different approaches for segments of the problem space will need to show
these network managers how such a collection is cheaper than the increased
training and generally higher clue factor of the operations staff needed to
run them.
The notion that this is a single problem space is an illusion, or an artifice. The IP address is a bit like Maslow's hammer - just because you can awkwardly use it as a tool to solve a particular problem does not mean that it's well-suited for all of those problems.
Keith
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