OK, we do disagree about that ;-)

On 2010-02-03 10:23, black_da...@emc.com wrote:
> The concern is not whether it is required (MUST) vs. recommended
> (SHOULD), but rather than the canonical form is not sufficiently
> specified.  Towards that end we disagree on the level of need for
> pseudocode.
> 
> Thanks,
> --David
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gen-art-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:gen-art-boun...@ietf.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:27 PM
>> To: Black, David
>> Cc: 6man-cha...@tools.ietf.org; akawamu...@mesh.ad.jp; ipv6@ietf.org;
> kawashi...@necat.nec.co.jp;
>> i...@ietf.org; gen-...@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART reviewof
> draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation-04
>> David,
>>
>> The problem is that we cannot make this a required format. Like it or
>> not, there is a range of ways to represent an IPv6 address in text
>> form, and has been for many years. 2001:DEAD:BEEF:: and
> 2001:deAd:BEeF::
>> are the same address.
>>
>> The draft is very precise on this point:
>>
>>    The
>>    recommendation in this document SHOULD be followed by systems when
>>    generating an address to represent as text, but all implementations
>>    MUST accept any legitimate [RFC4291] format.
>>
>> This is the only approach which is consistent with history. Making
>> that SHOULD into a MUST would be simply unrealistic. But I really
>> don't understand your objection to this as a standards track document.
>> It's a complete, if simple, normative specification. (It could also
>> have been a BCP, imho, but the WG preferred standards track.)
>>
>> I don't see any particular need to provide pseudocode; it wouldn't
>> change the normative content. It certainly wouldn't do any harm.
>>
>> Regards
>>    Brian Carpenter
>>
>> On 2010-02-03 03:36, black_da...@emc.com wrote:
>>> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART)
>>> reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see
>>> http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).
>>>
>>> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd
>>> or AD before posting a new version of the draft.
>>>
>>> Document: draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation-04
>>> Reviewer: David L. Black
>>> Review Date: February 2, 2010
>>> IESG Telechat date: February 4, 2010
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>> This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described
>>> in the review.
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>> The draft provides recommendations for a canonical format for IPv6
>>> addresses.
>>>
>>> The open issue is that the draft only provides recommendations, and
>>> does not tightly specify a canonical format.  A tight specification
>>> of a canonical format would include at least one (and preferably
>>> both) of:
>>>     - An algorithm to test whether an IPv6 text address
>>>             is in the canonical format
>>>     - An algorithm to convert an IPv6 text address into canonical
>>>             form.
>>> Code or pseudo-code should be used, and note that the latter item
>>> subsumes the former (a canonicalization algorithm makes no changes
> to
>>> input that's already in the canonical format).  In the absence of
>>> these elements, I'm not convinced that the draft defines an
>>> interoperable standard that solves the problem.
>>>
>>> This document is a good start - I think it's a fine requirements
>>> document that would be appropriate to publish as an Informational
> RFC,
>>> but I believe that more work is needed to produce a standards-track
> RFC
>>> that specifies an interoperable representation.  If this document
>>> is published in its current form, it should be edited slightly to
>>> make it clear that it is only a requirements document.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --David
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