On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:30:25 -0400
Christopher Morrow <christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Miya Kohno <mko...@juniper.net> wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> >> > *Except /127*, we support rfc3627 and the appendix B.2 of rfc5375.
> > They
> >> > have properly addressed the implication for using longer prefix than
> >> > /64.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So where is there reference to Appendix B.2 of RFC5375 in the /127
> >> draft? The draft does not mention anything about the 70/71 bit issue,
> 
> mark,
> what is that issue? that addrarch asks that 70/71 essentially both be
> 0? What's the harm in them being 1? Taking the pragmatic approach that
> 'bits are bits' in these cases they are not part of the host-address
> so they shouldn't matter, I think.
> 

I think people are missing the point. I'm only using the 70/71 issue
as an example of something that is discussed in RFC3627, but not
discussed or referenced in the /127 draft. If the /127 draft is a
rebuttal of RFC3627, and that's how I think it is presented, then I
think it needs to at least rebut ever issue relevant to /127s identified
in RFC3627. It doesn't do that, with an example of something missing
being the discussion or reference to what to do about the 70/71 bits.

Other examples - there are probably more - of things I think that should
be discussed, beyond what is in RFC3627 -

o  what is the prefix length of link locals - should it also be /127?

o  do the links need link locals (I'm partly asking because I've seen
some P2P link implementations (tunnels specifically) not have link
locals)?

o  in the ethernet example, is ND NS/NA enabled (the current /127
generally says no)? If not, now is the remote end going to learn the
link layer address of the peer?

o  if /127s mitigate the ND cache exhaustion problem, then why not have
ND NS/NA enabled, making them compliant with the ND RFC, where p2p links
aren't treated as anything special? This rectifies the ethernet issue
too.

o  The anycast router address isn't the only anycast address
that /127s would disable - there are 128 reserved anycast addresses in
a subnet. Another one impacted is the Mobile IPv6 Home-Agents anycast.
So there are 126 left for future possible use. The existing uses may
not be that valuable in point-to-point link scenarios today, but what
are the /127s proponent's advice on what to do of another anycast
address is assigned that is useful on p2p links? 

There are potentially others I think.

> Curious though, since lots of things seem to be encoded for mysterious
> reasons in the 128 bits of an ipv6 address.
> 

It's certainly not unique to IPv6. IPv4 did it of course, with Classes,
including Class E where the forwarding mechanism is different, or 0
network meaning this network, and other protocols like Appletalk and
IPX have done it too. 

Regards,
Mark.
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