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> From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Christian Huitema
> Subject: RE: I-D Action:draft-krishnan-6man-header-reserved-bits-00.txt
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>But then, waiting for the traffic to increase and the load
> balancing needs to materialize also makes a lot of sense.

[WES] No, actually it doesn't, especially not as a justification for this 
draft. We as operators are telling you that we need something now, because 
we've seen this load-balancing movie already in IPv4 and we'd like to get ahead 
of it in IPv6. If you are proposing waiting to implement a better solution for 
load-balancing because IPv6 traffic isn't there yet, you are simply being 
short-sighted, which is funny given that this draft is an attempt to future 
proof the IPv6 header. All it takes is a few key traffic sources/sinks moving 
to IPv6 on your average network... People see their IPv6 traffic increase 
dramatically *overnight* simply by enabling whitelisting for the Googtubemail 
sites. 3 years ago, I might have bought that tired old "wait and see" argument, 
but not when we're this close to IPv4 exhaust and starting to see real IPv6 
deployments happening in many major ISPs.

>I am pretty
> sure that 5 or 10 years from now someone will be glad that there are
> unused bits in the header...

[WES] Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure that's why Extension Headers exist. 
Someone would be directed to RFC 2460 section 4 and asked to explain why that 
wouldn't work for their pet idea. This draft's authors have the same burden of 
proof as far as I am concerned.
And no,
   "...extension headers are not examined or processed
   by any node along a packet's delivery path..."
is not a good enough reason in and of itself, because one would still have to 
convince people (specifically router vendors and SPs) that this set of bits is 
so important that routers in the middle of the path would need to slow down 
their processing or build silicon to look at it (and take some action) at 
linerate. Yes, I realize that the same issue exists for any existing use of FL 
that is on the table, but at least there's a reasonable justification for that 
as being integral to high-scale packet forwarding.

See also RFC 3330/5735 for a great example of "future use" gone awry.

Wes George

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