Bill,

On 18/02/2013 00:05, Bill Jouris wrote:
> At this point, it seems like the best thing to do is draft two separate 
> proposals: 
> 1)   list extension headers, and 
> 2)   a separate one to deal with firewalls and how they deal with extensions. 
>  

This isn't going to happen before IETF86, because of deadlines. We'll see
whether it's necessary after the next version is discussed.

   Brian

> That way, we can get the first one thru fairly quickly (it doesn't seem like 
> there is actually much room for controversy there, but that may be naive on 
> my part).  And then focus more narrowly on the second one in the rest of this 
> discussion. 
> 
> Bill
> 
>> Just to focus on one area at the moment: 
>>
>>>> If an extension proves itself safe, easily parse-able, and useful, it
>>>> will be transported over the public Internet. If it doesn't, it will get
>>>> dropped.
>>> At the moment this is impossible. There is no place for firewall
>>> implementors to find a master list of all well-defined extension headers
>>> and no way for site IT managers to configure firewalls to block or allow
>>> specific extension headers. So there is no way for a new extension
>>> header to prove itself safe and viable. It's pure Catch 22.
>> My personal view is that it is very useful to have a single IANA registry 
>> that lists all IPv6 extension headers.  I would like to think I am fairly 
>> knowledgable about IPv6, and it's hard for me to find them all.  This is a 
>> win independent of what policy we recommend that firewall/middlebox/etc. 
>> vendors support.  Let's not loose that.
> 
> Indeed. That is one of the two proposals in the draft.
> 
> The other proposal is to specify what firewalls should do to make extension
> headers deployable (subject to site policy). I think this is complementary to
> the oversized-header-chain draft, which is necessary to remove some cases
> that are unreasonable for any firewall to handle.
> 
>     Brian
> 
> 
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