Dear ISP's,
1) I simply cannot comprehend the nerve of some of the mailing
list members classifying payments of dues to a organization
as mere technicallity.
2) This mailing list is not a place for free loaders and paupers.
3) This list is of owners/employees of ISP/DNOP in
Pakistan. To do this business the members have invested
alot of money.
4) The associations was formed to solve day to day problem.
Which I may add have been very successful.
5) ISPAK in which ever form it is, needs money to function.
If ISPAK is asking for a registration/renewal fee of Rs 5000,
whats the big deal.
6) If somebody wants to be a member and does not want to
pay the registration/renewal fee, I suggest the answer is a
NO. We donot want paupers among us.
7) If the majority still feels that there should not be any condition
of payment of dues, I donot want to be a member of a
associations which has free loaders in it.
Best Regards,
Faisal Ahmed
CEO
Fascom
Send reply to: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sbhutta"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 20:58:48 +0500
Organization: CubeXS Private Limited
> Dear All,
>
> Funds are required to run any association, PASHA charged our Software house
> Rs. 15,000 before they would even put us on their discussion group. Same is
> true for Chamber, Federation, PREGMA, APTMA etc. etc. I fail to understand
> how an association with office, employees, travel expenses etc.can work
> without funds. The present and newly elected body will need the funds to
> operate ISPAK successfully, and the audited accounts should be open for
> inspection to all members.
>
> One may argue that these are not elected members per say but we feel that
> our problems were solved by the same team which exists today. Being an ISP
> in operation since 1998 I feel that Bhutta Saheb, Ansar Saheb, Imran Akhtar
> Saheb, Salman Ansari Saheb, Arshad Jalil Saheb and others have worked very
> very hard "TOGETHER" to do what ever was possible to get ISP issues
> resolved. So many of our problems with PTCL which were impossible to solve
> in the 90's are going through seamlessly. People on both sides of the fence
> have worked hard to get ISPAK to where it is today.
>
> We are looking forward to the elections.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Aly Ramzan
> CubeXS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:54 PM
> Subject: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
>
> > Dear Bhutta Sahib,
> >
> > I support Nadeem. Every ISP should be allowed to be on the email list of
> ISPAK whether a paid member or not.
> >
> > Infact, I would go one step further and recommend the following for
> maximum participation:
> >
> > 1. For the General Body Meeting of ISPAK on July 10, 2001 in Karachi Mr.
> Pasha, DS ISPAK should personally contact the CEO/MD of every operational
> ISP in the country whether it is a member of ISPAK or not. All should be
> invited to this meeting or asked to send representatives.The email list of
> ISPAK does not include all operational ISP's.
> >
> > 2. Those who cannot come to Karachi for one reason or another should be
> informed of what issues were discussed in the General Body meeting by
> sending them written minutes of the meeting and also all should be given an
> opportunity to present their views by immediately holding followup ISPAK
> meetings in Lahore and Islamabad chaired by you as President ISPAK
> personally so that no one can complain later.
> >
> > For Lahore WOL will be more than willing to play host and I am sure we
> will have volunteers for Islamabad also.
> >
> > The above practice is followed very successfully by PASHA and this insures
> that every member has the opportunity to participate in the affairs of ISPAK
> and such openness leads to a more vibrant, effective and united
> organization.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Azfar
> >
> > At 09:44 AM7/2/01+0500, nadeem wrote:
> > >Bhutta Sb.,
> > >
> > >Do not take this position.
> > >
> > >Instead, be positive and try to have maximum presence to make ISPAK truly
> > >representative. Remember ISPAK is body of ISPs. Do not give impression
> that
> > >you want some specific person out.
> > >
> > >Registered member is one who has got registration. Make the request to
> > >members to pay the dues. Do not try to keep the people out on
> > >technicalities. Be humble and make friends. The positions are open for
> any
> > >body who is considered eligible by the majority.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 8:51 PM
> > >Subject: ISPAK: Re: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> > >
> > >
> > >> Dear Mr.Pasha,
> > >> Deputy Secretary ISPAK
> > >> AoA
> > >> Please check if worldcall.net is paid member then include the proposed
> > >name
> > >> in the mailing list otherwise regret and inform that mailing list is
> being
> > >> limited with in paid members..
> > >> Best regards.
> > >> Sanaullah Bhutta
> > >> President ISPAK>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Nahil Mahmood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:37 PM
> > >> Subject: To Mr. Bhutta; Email List Additions For Worldcall
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Dear Mr. Bhutta,
> > >> >
> > >> > I am contacting you from Worldcall Lahore. I would like to request
> you
> > >> > to kindly add two email addresses to your mailing list for ISPAK as
> > >> > follows:
> > >> >
> > >> > -Mr. Fazeel Asif, COO Worldcall Multimedia
> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >
> > >> > -Nahil Mahmood, Senior Manager Technical, Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >
> > >> > Looking forward to your early asistance.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sincerely,
> > >> >
> > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > >> > Mobile: 0300-8484399
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > *************************
> > >> > Nahil Mahmood
> > >> > Senior Manager Technical
> > >> > Worldcall Multimedia Ltd.
> > >> >
> > >> > 50 Bridge Colony
> > >> > Abid Majeed Road
> > >> > Lahore Cannt., Pakistan
> > >> > Tel: +92-42-6686227
> > >> > Fax: +92-42-6669095
> > >> > *************************
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
> > >> ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of
> > >> ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> > >> -------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
> > >ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of
> > >ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> > >-------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
> > ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of
> > ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> > -------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
> ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of
> ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
> -------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
>
------------------------- ISPAK --------------------------
ISPAK Discussion List. Members are limited to officials of
ISPs and ESPs of Pakistan and select media representatives.
-------------- http://ispak.net.pk -----------------------
