Bhutta Sb.,
It is shocking to read your accusations (point 1 & 2)
Do not misrepresent. Your statement that PTCL was ready to bring down the
rates to $ 10,000/- is not correct as you are presenting. This was an
informal statement by one of PTCL official that the rates can be brought to
$ 10 K for ISPs if the minister takes back his rates announced for Software.
Do you think that the minister would have taken back his decision. PTCL
tried to use you against the minister as well as Computer Society of
Pakistan and you played in their hands doubting even your own friends. The
participants in the meeting were are learned and could judge the situation
better.
You are making a serious accusation, challenging the integrity, showing the
mistrust on the participants of the meeting. Remember unless you have
learned colleagues from ISPAK, you alone are not able to present the cases
in a professional manner. All the successes were not because of you but
because of collective effort.
I could never think that you will come to this level. I had lot of respect
for you but you are losing it.
Regards
Ahmad Nadeem Syed
----- Original Message -----
From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> 1. Every body knows who are playing politics. Who created rift on
the
> issue of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the meeting at Super.net
Islamabad.
>
>
>
> 2.. A group played the role to forced ISPAK to accept US$.15000/- while
> PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/- to ISPs in the open meeting.
> US$.5000/- per 2MB per month will be paid extra to PTCL by ISPs and also
> loose customers who will get @ US$.6000/- due to some members who forced
us
> to accept this tariff to save some one in ministry. Rift started from that
> day. Who is responsible for this huge loos to ISPs.?
>
>
>
>
>
> 3.. There is no restriction to be member of ISPAK if some one fulfils
the
> conditions agreed from first day of formation of ISPAK.
>
>
> 4.. Every body know there is an " ISPAK", a representative body of
> ISPs/DNOPs.
>
>
> 5.. There are no obstacles to be member of ISPAK.
>
>
> 6.. We are inviting continually to all ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK. The
> registration form is available on WEB of ISPAK.
>
>
> 7.. What was the purpose of un-official meetings?
> 8.. Who created the term of North and South while we all were jointly
and
> smoothly working?
>
>
> 9.. Who formed parallel body of ISPAK who announced that he is president
> for next term without approval of General House?
>
>
>
>
> 10.. An understanding was agreed with me on 17th May, in Islamabad at
> World Telecom Day, for election. Who betrayed?
>
>
> 11.. Who preached to PTCL and PTA that there is no ISPAK and Mr.Bhutta
has
> been removed from President ship.
>
>
> 12.. Who threaten me to capture the office and forced me to resign from
> President ship.
>
>
> 13.. I would not like to discuss the issue of royalty time will decide
> who was right and who was wrong.
>
>
> 14.. Please think impatiently then you will realise who are playing
> politic and who is playing in their hands ? Many other points can be put
for
> your consideration.
>
>
> 15.. Best regards.
> Bhutta
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Asif Luqman Qazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H.K.Pasha"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
>
> > Who is playing politics, the ones who want to include
> > all ISPs in ISPAK or the ones who want to manipulate?
> > ISPs are ready to pay more than Rs 10,000 but they
> > will pay it to the representative body. Do we want to
> > move ahead and invite people to join or do we want to
> > create obstacles?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Asif
> >
> > --- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > AoA,
> > >
> > > I received mails from Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi Sahib,
> > > Mr.Azfar Manzoor Sahib and Mr.Ateeq Khan .
> > >
> > > My simple reply is that a meeting of paid members
> > > will be held on 10th July, 2001 at ISPAK office the
> > > notice of this meeting was issued well in time and
> > > last date for renewal of memberships was fixed 30th
> > > June, 2001.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are no differences of opinion on these dues
> > > Registration and annual subscription.Rs.5000/- one
> > > time and Rs.5000/- annually
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr.Qazi is requested to get renewal to attend this
> > > meeting to raise his points in the house.
> > >
> > > No doubt ISPAK is body of ISPs and paid members from
> > > ISPs will run this organization. Body is elected and
> > > you also represented as member of EC. I would not
> > > like to discuss the status of participants of
> > > meeting in Islamabad and Lahore.
> > >
> > > The meeting of 10th July will decide the election
> > > issue forever. Body has been registered and now we
> > > have an un-changeable procedure for election and all
> > > other issues. Account are being maintained properly
> > > and audit report will be available for paid members
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr.Ateeq Khan suggested for extending renewal date
> > > upto 5th July 2001. It will be considered in meeting
> > > of 1oth. Mr.Azfar Manzoor is informed that Mr.Pasha
> > > has already done which he has proposed regarding
> > > meeting in Lahore I agree but paid members would be
> > > allowed to join meeting of ISPAK. The status of the
> > > participants should be defined.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The mails of all above three honourable members will
> > > be put before the house of 10th July.
> > >
> > > I again would like to inform all of you that since
> > > long we were sending invoices and e-mail to all ISPs
> > > for membership for many time but we have very poor
> > > response. There should be some difference between
> > > paid and non-paid members.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It was decided that Rs.10/- per port would be
> > > deposited in ISPAK account. Only three or four
> > > provided the information regarding their ports and
> > > rest kept silent but took part in discussion and
> > > kept send hard words to us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please be realist and do no do politics from this
> > > forum.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > Sanaullah Bhutta.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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