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Bhutta Sb.,
You can not have both the Operating & non-operating
equal. The earlier has put his money at stake, while the other has no risk. How
can the two be equal.
Pl. check rules of any association, the voting right
is only with the operating member. If this leverage is for the benefit
of special, it is not fair.
Regards
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:17
PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Every license holder from PTA who will pay
the dues can be voter.
Bhutta
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:39
PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Dear Bhutta Saheb,
With all the mails going back and forth and
different points being raised I'm not really sure of the criteria for
voting. Will only the operational ISP's be able to vote or everyone who has
a license can vote.
Please advice.
Thank you,
Aly Ramzan
CubeXS
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:55
AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Please see my
previous mail sent to all on
21-06-2001. Don't blame without prove
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BE AWARE
!
The last date for renewal
of subscription of ISPAK is 30th June 2001.
Those members who will not
pay their dues upto this date, could not participate in the General Body
Meeting on 10th July 2001 & also in upcoming
Elections.
The voters list according to
paid members will be circulated on 6th July 2001. No change will be
allowed in the voter list.
Kindly take it serious &
important. No extension will be made. We have to proceed for elections,
such necessary actions are required to be taken strictly.
Those who will pay after due
date that may be consider as member but not as voter.
Regards
Sanaullah
Bhutta
President
ISPAK
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
> Bhutta
Sb.,
>
> Please distribute the list of members (paid &
unpaid) to each member. Your
> actions show that you want to
restrict the participants of your own choice
> may they even qualify
or not to achieve your own objectives. Every one has a
> right to
know about current status.
>
> Regards
>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL
BODY MEETING
>
>
> >
1. Every body knows who are playing
politics. Who created rift on
> the
> > issue
of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the meeting at Super.net
>
Islamabad.
> >
> >
> >
> >
2.. A group played the role to forced ISPAK to accept US$.15000/-
while
> > PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/- to ISPs in the
open meeting.
> > US$.5000/- per 2MB per month will be paid extra
to PTCL by ISPs and also
> > loose customers who will get @
US$.6000/- due to some members who forced
> us
> > to
accept this tariff to save some one in ministry. Rift started from
that
> > day. Who is responsible for this huge loos to
ISPs.?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> > 3.. There is no restriction to be member of
ISPAK if some one fulfils
> the
> > conditions agreed from
first day of formation of ISPAK.
> >
> >
>
> 4.. Every body know there is an " ISPAK", a
representative body of
> > ISPs/DNOPs.
> >
>
>
> > 5.. There are no obstacles to be member of
ISPAK.
> >
> >
> > 6.. We are
inviting continually to all ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK. The
> >
registration form is available on WEB of ISPAK.
> >
>
>
> > 7.. What was the purpose of un-official
meetings?
> > 8.. Who created the term of North and
South while we all were jointly
> and
> > smoothly
working?
> >
> >
> > 9.. Who formed
parallel body of ISPAK who announced that he is president
> > for
next term without approval of General House?
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > 10.. An
understanding was agreed with me on 17th May, in Islamabad at
> >
World Telecom Day, for election. Who betrayed?
> >
>
>
> > 11.. Who preached to PTCL and PTA that there
is no ISPAK and Mr.Bhutta
> has
> > been removed from
President ship.
> >
> >
> > 12..
Who threaten me to capture the office and forced me to resign from
>
> President ship.
> >
> >
> >
13.. I would not like to discuss the issue of royalty time will
decide
> > who was right and who was wrong.
> >
>
>
> > 14.. Please think impatiently then you will
realise who are playing
> > politic and who is playing in their
hands ? Many other points can be put
> for
> > your
consideration.
> >
> >
> > 15..
Best regards.
> > Bhutta
> >
> >
> >
----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Asif Luqman Qazi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
Manzoor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK:
GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > > Who is
playing politics, the ones who want to include
> > > all ISPs
in ISPAK or the ones who want to manipulate?
> > > ISPs are
ready to pay more than Rs 10,000 but they
> > > will pay it to
the representative body. Do we want to
> > > move ahead and
invite people to join or do we want to
> > > create
obstacles?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
Asif
> > >
> > > --- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
>
> > >
> > > > AoA,
> > > >
>
> > > I received mails from Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi Sahib,
>
> > > Mr.Azfar Manzoor Sahib and Mr.Ateeq Khan .
>
> > >
> > > > My simple reply is that a meeting of
paid members
> > > > will be held on 10th July, 2001 at
ISPAK office the
> > > > notice of this meeting was issued
well in time and
> > > > last date for renewal of
memberships was fixed 30th
> > > > June, 2001.
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> There are no differences of opinion on these dues
> > >
> Registration and annual subscription.Rs.5000/- one
> > >
> time and Rs.5000/- annually
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > Mr.Qazi is requested to
get renewal to attend this
> > > > meeting to raise his
points in the house.
> > > >
> > > > No
doubt ISPAK is body of ISPs and paid members from
> > > >
ISPs will run this organization. Body is elected and
> > >
> you also represented as member of EC. I would not
> > >
> like to discuss the status of participants of
> > > >
meeting in Islamabad and Lahore.
> > > >
> > >
> The meeting of 10th July will decide the election
> > >
> issue forever. Body has been registered and now we
> > >
> have an un-changeable procedure for election and all
> >
> > other issues. Account are being maintained properly
> >
> > and audit report will be available for paid members
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> Mr.Ateeq Khan suggested for extending renewal date
> > >
> upto 5th July 2001. It will be considered in meeting
> >
> > of 1oth. Mr.Azfar Manzoor is informed that Mr.Pasha
> >
> > has already done which he has proposed regarding
> >
> > meeting in Lahore I agree but paid members would be
> >
> > allowed to join meeting of ISPAK. The status of the
> >
> > participants should be defined.
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The mails of
all above three honourable members will
> > > > be put
before the house of 10th July.
> > > >
> > >
> I again would like to inform all of you that since
> > >
> long we were sending invoices and e-mail to all ISPs
> >
> > for membership for many time but we have very poor
> >
> > response. There should be some difference between
> >
> > paid and non-paid members.
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > It was decided
that Rs.10/- per port would be
> > > > deposited in ISPAK
account. Only three or four
> > > > provided the
information regarding their ports and
> > > > rest kept
silent but took part in discussion and
> > > > kept send
hard words to us.
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > > Please be realist and do no do
politics from this
> > > > forum.
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > Sanaullah
Bhutta.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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