Dear Bhutta Sb,

You negate your email here. I was in WOL when I was made the Executive Council Member and then I moved on to DCW and now to WORLDTEL MECA.

The MOA is adopted by ISPAK after I joined WORLDTEL and therefore the clauses do not apply. And also you note the following words of your email.

----- Original Message -----
From:
Sanaullah Bhutta
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Imran Akhtar Shah
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK_EXECUTIVE: Re: THIS IS WRONG
Mr.Imran Shah,AoA,You know every thigh and nothing is hiden from you. I again confirm that the EC mentioned below by you is working EC. All you have seen that was for registration purpose. You are advised put your proposal in EC meeting inshah ALLAH which will be held in this month as you uggested . I again confrim that the following is working EC. Nothing has changed. These members will decide the all issues. The schedule for election duly framed with your consltation will be presented to EC for approval
MEMBERS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
. S. # Name Address/Description Designation
1 Mr.Sanaullah Bhutta Napcom /Zoooom.net President
2 Mr. Muhammad Arshad Jalil CompuNet on line Vice President South
3 Mr.Shahid Farooq Alvi Brain Net Vice President North.
4 Mr.Ansar ul Haq Cyber Net Member Executive Committee
5 Mr.Col. (R ) M.Ishaq Shoa,net Member Executive Committee
6 Mr.Faisal Ahmed Fascom Member Executive Committee
7 Mr.Imran Akhtar Shah Descon CyberWorld Member Executive Committee
8 Mr.Imran Qureshi Cyberaccess Member Executive Committee
9 Mr.Jamal Nasir Super.Net Member Executive Committee
10 Mr.Naeem ul Haq Nexlinx Member Executive Committee
11 Mr.Naveed Khan Sat.net Member Executive Committee
12 Mr. Asif Luqman Qazi Pakistan on line Member Executive Committee
13 Mr.Tariq Pardesi Digicom Member Executive Committee
14 Mr.V.A.Abdi SJ,SI(M) High Net Member Executive Committee
15 Mr.Wahaj us Siraj Comsats Member Executive Committee
Best regards,Sanaullah Bhutta,President ISPAK.

Regards,
Imran


At 03:45 PM 9/19/01 +0500, SANAULLAH BHUTTA wrote:
 
7 Mr.Imran Akhtar Shah Descon CyberWorld Member Executive Committee
Please study clause #  6-a, 6-b and 6-c  of MoA.
Bhutta
8 Mr.Imran Qureshi Cyberaccess Member Executive Committee
9 Mr.Jamal Nasir Super.Net Member Executive Committee
10 Mr.Naeem ul Haq Nexlinx Member Executive Committee
11 Mr.Naveed Khan Sat.net Member Executive Committee
12 Mr. Asif Luqman Qazi Pakistan on line Member Executive Committee
13 Mr.Tariq Pardesi Digicom Member Executive Committee
14 Mr.V.A.Abdi SJ,SI(M) High Net Member Executive Committee
15 Mr.Wahaj us  Siraj Comsats Member Executive Committee
 Best regards,Sanaullah Bhutta,President ISPAK. Regards,
Imran
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Imran Akhtar Shah
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: ISPAK_EXECUTIVE: Re: THIS IS WRONG
 Dear Bhutta Sb,

Let me start by saying that the efforts you had given for the cause of the ISPAK will always be remembered and for that we always be respecting you. I and my friends in ISPAK still respect you and take you in very high esteem and honor.

To put the record straight, the EC members who signed the registration documents of ISPAK which lies with you in Karachi had some names who are not members of EC ISPAK. Like Mr. Baweja of NAPCOM. On getting to this info, I requested you umpteenth times to remove this anomaly and at the same time communicated to other EC members about this. Also Mr. Jamal Nasir and my name deleted as EC members. And then Mr. Malik Mohammad Khan was made General Secy and member of EC. He is very repectfull member of ISPAK family but as the things stands today he is an active member of ISPAK but not EC member.If this breach of confidence then I would say I do not agree with you.
Following is the EC members list for the info of all.
 
MEMBERS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
 
. S. #  Name Address/Description Designation
1  Mr.Sanaullah Bhutta Napcom /Zoooom.net President
2  Mr. Muhammad Arshad Jalil  CompuNet on line  Vice President South
3  Mr.Shahid Farooq Alvi Brain Net Vice President North.
4  Mr.Ansar ul  Haq Cyber Net Member Executive Committee
5  Mr.Col. (R ) M.Ishaq Shoa,net  Member Executive Committee
6  Mr.Faisal Ahmed Fascom Member Executive Committee
7  Mr.Imran Akhtar Shah  Descon CyberWorld Member Executive Committee
8  Mr.Imran Qureshi Cyberaccess  Member Executive Committee
9  Mr.Jamal Nasir Super.Net Member Executive Committee
10  Mr.Naeem ul Haq Nexlinx Member Executive Committee
11  Mr.Naveed Khan Sat.net Member Executive Committee
12  Mr. Asif Luqman Qazi Pakistan on line Member Executive Committee
13  Mr.Tariq Pardesi Digicom Member Executive Committee
14  Mr.V.A.Abdi SJ,SI(M) High Net Member Executive Committee
15  Mr.Wahaj us  Siraj Comsats  Member Executive Committee

Regards,
Imran
----- Original Message -----
From: Asif Luqman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sanaullah Bhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Naeem Haq
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nadeem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Imran Akhtar Shah
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Saad Saleem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:03 PM
Subject: THIS IS WRONG
 
> Dear Bhutta Sb.,
>
> Yes, Mr Imran told me that names in the EC are being
> changed. And I don't think you should do it without
> the approval of EC. Only EC or the General Body has
> the right to decide this. Is this some kind of
> "National Interest" that the "commoners" are not
> supposed to know? I will again request you not to file
> this without consulting the EC first.
>
> On a different note, you appointed me the coordinator
> of the committee to submit proposal of bandwidth. I
> circulated a request among members to circulate the
> proposals whoever has it. Nobody came up with any
> proposal and Mr Faisal clearly replied that he had no
> proposal at all. I don't think anyone has the right to
> complain that he was not given a chance to submit a
> proposal to the PTCL.
>
> Regards,
> Asif
>
> --- Sanaullah Bhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You and every member has the  right to move vote of
> > noconfidanc. If you
> > desire you are most welcome. I have been contacted
> > by many members for the
> > same against those worked against the interest of
> > ISPs in bandwidth issue.
> > PTCL was offering us @ $.10000/- if we  take stand
> > but you know better the
> > whole story why now members will pay $.5000/- extra
> > for E1.
> >
> > Best wishes and regards,
> > Bhutta
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Naeem Haq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Asif Luqman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nadeem
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Imran
> > Akhtar Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Saad Saleem
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:34 PM
> > Subject: ISPAK_EXECUTIVE: IMPORTANT
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Bhutta Sahib ,
> > >
> > > Despite being warned a number of times , you have
> > once again overstepped
> > > your bounds and have gone to the extent of
> > changing the name of the
> > > association
> > > to INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS ASSOCIATION of
> > KARACHI . I personally think
> > ,
> > > this is enough for me to move the no confidence
> > vote , as of today I do
> > not
> > > regard you the president of ISPAK . You have
> > forged signatures , kept
> > > members
> > > in the dark , abused your powers and even changed
> > the Executive committee
> > > ...
> > > Basically , "your" personal ISPAK even if it is
> > registered will be a BOGUS
> > > organization
> > > and your acts will greatly damage all ISPs in
> > Pakistan . ISPAK belongs to
> > > all ISPs of Pakistan and
> > > we will fight to keep it that way .
> > >
> > > Please note that you are now solely responsible
> > for destroying the ISPs
> > > unity which had achieved
> > > a number of goals in the last few years .
> > >
> > > Knowing that you have singlehandedly sabotaged all
> > our efforts , and as a
> > > result of your latest actions
> > > we will definely lose the ISPAKs voice in the
> > Ministry , PTCL , PTA etc .
> > >
> > > I would advise you to RETRACT your papers , and
> > let the Executive members
> > > do whatever is necessary to put ISPAK back on
> > track .
> > >
> > > Again , I am ashamed at what has transpired in the
> > last few days , and
> > hope
> > > that
> > > its not to late to start rebuilding ISPAK , as for
> > now it seems you have
> > > completely
> > > destroyed the association for you personal motives
> > and convenience .
> > >
> > > Naeem Haq
> > > NEXLINX
> > >
> > > P.S : I want all Exective Commitee Members to send
> > a clear message to
> > Bhutta
> > > Sahib that
> > > such actions will not be tolerated .
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Asif Luqman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 6:05 PM
> > > To: nadeem; Imran Akhtar Shah; Saad Saleem; Naeem
> > Haq
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: ISPAK_EXECUTIVE: Re: ISPAK MOA Latest
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Bhutta Sb.,
> > >
> > > Reportedly some changes have been made in the MOA
> > > without taking EC members into confidence. It is
> > my
> > > humble request to inform the members regarding
> > these
> > > changes and get their approval before filing the
> > > documents. Failing to do so will amount to a
> > breach of
> > > the mandate and the spirit of trust we have been
> > > working with.
> > >
> > > I hope you will handle the matters more positively
> > to
> > > protect the organisation you have put so much
> > effort
> > > to build.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Asif
> > >
> > > --- nadeem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Imran,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for taking in confidence. I have reviewed
> > the
> > > > articles alongwith
> > > > Saad.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, we were told that according to
> > Bhutta
> > > > sb. the application for
> > > > registration was already been filed. What is the
> > > > truth?
> > > >
> > > > There are some minor as well as critical
> > > > observations which need to be
> > > > discussed clause by clause in the executive
> > > > committee meeting and agreed
> > > > upon.
> > > >
> > > > Among some technical mistakes the serious
> > concerns
> > > > are about
> > > >
> > > > 1. election methodology of election of
> > president. In
> > > > our opinion the
> > > > president and other office bearers should be
> > elected
> > > > by general council in
> > > > one go.
> > > > 2. What happens if the elected president leaves
> > the
> > > > organization and joins a
> > > > new which is not eligible for membership or he
> > > > leaves Pakistan.
> > > > 3. The presidenship should be on rotation for
> > all
> > > > the regions.
> > > > 4.  The registered office must be different from
> > > > Head Office. HO must shift
> > > > over with the president. If this does not
> > happen. it
> > > > would mean that the
> > > > president will always be from the location of HO
> > as
> > > > no body (say from ISB)
> > > > would like to shift over to KHI just for ISPak.
> > > >
> > > > There are some other observations also. I
> > suggest to
> > > > call EC meeting discuss
> > > > and finalize.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Ahmad Nadeem Syed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Imran Akhtar Shah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Naeem Haq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Saad
> > > > Saleem"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ahmad Nadeem Syed"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 5:27 PM
> > > > Subject: ISPAK MOA Latest
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > As discussed on phone, please see the attach
> > file
> > > > and then let me know by
> > > > > tomorrow morning positively of any changes
> > > > proposed in the ISPAK MOA. I
> > > > > have a meeting with the Lawyer in Karachi
> > tomorrow
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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