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Claus Ibsen updated CAMEL-25235:
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    Fix Version/s: 4.23.0

> camel_catalog_doc gives a language only its generic options: the semantic 
> language's questions, criteria and threshold are unreachable
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>                 Key: CAMEL-25235
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-25235
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-jbang
>            Reporter: Claus Ibsen
>            Assignee: Claus Ibsen
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 4.23.0
>
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> {{camel_catalog_doc}} carries the start of a component's documentation since 
> CAMEL-25040, because an option list can only say what can be set and syntax 
> that is not an option is invisible in it. That change was scoped to 
> components. Languages and data formats were left out, and the new Semantic 
> Evaluation language shows what that costs.
> h3. What a model asking about it gets today
> {{camel_catalog_doc(name=semantic, kind=language)}} returns the title, the 
> description, the Maven coordinates, {{since}}, {{supportLevel}} -- and the 
> generic expression-language options:
> {noformat}
> options: id, language, expression   (+2 omitted)
> {noformat}
> That is all. The answer does not contain the words {{question}}, 
> {{instructions}}, {{threshold}} or {{criteria}}: everything a route actually 
> has to write. Nor does it say that a provider artifact is required alongside 
> {{camel-semantic}}, which is the first thing that goes wrong.
> {{includeDoc=true}} returns the whole page, 29406 characters, which has all 
> of it. But it is off by default and an author who does not already know the 
> answer has no reason to ask for it -- exactly the position CAMEL-25040 
> describes.
> h3. What the first section would give it
> The page opens with precisely what is missing, in a few hundred characters: 
> that boolean questions produce decisions, choice questions category strings 
> and score questions numbers on an ordered rubric; that calls are synchronous 
> and may block; that a provider artifact must be added beside 
> {{camel-semantic}} and that no provider, or two, is an error; and then the 
> YAML shape of a named question:
> {code:yaml}
> - semantic:
>     question:
>       department:
>         type: choice
>         instructions: Which department should handle this message?
>         criteria:
>           billing: Invoices, payments and refunds
> {code}
> A worked example of the whole pattern, including {{threshold}} and reading 
> the result back through {{${variable.decisions[...]}}}, is in 
> https://zinebbendhiba.com/posts/system-one-models-in-java-camel-s-semantic-language-and-langchain4j-s-decision-api/
>  -- useful as a check on whether the excerpt carries enough to write the 
> route.
> h3. Suggested change
> # Extend the documentation excerpt of CAMEL-25040 to languages and data 
> formats. {{languageDoc}} and {{dataFormatDoc}} in {{CatalogDocs}} already 
> take the page; they need the same {{docExcerpt}} treatment and the same 
> {{documentation}} / {{documentationHint}} fields as {{componentDoc}}. The 
> budget may want to be larger than a component's 1400 characters for a 
> language whose configuration is all prose.
> # A Preview language is where this matters most, because there is no training 
> data to fall back on. Worth a pass over the other recent ones for the same 
> gap.
> # {{camel_catalog_sample}} has no sample for {{semantic}}. A named-question 
> declaration plus one route reading the decision would be the most useful 
> single thing to add, since the declaration sits beside the routes rather than 
> inside one and that shape is not guessable from the option list.
> h3. Why now
> The language is new in 4.23 and Preview, and has just been written up 
> publicly, so people will try it this week. The content exists and is good; it 
> simply is not reachable from the answer the tools give.



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