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Patrícia Feio commented on CAMEL-13812:
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[~zregvart] I went through the User Manual and I have some questions and some 
split suggestions. Regarding the splitting suggestions was this structure what 
you had in mind? I don't have any suggestion about splitting the Architecture 
section.

In [https://camel.apache.org/manual/latest/]:

In +Overview+  (after Summary) I would suggest:
 * Getting started with Apache Camel
 * FAQ
 * Legal Notice

I suggest changing +Getting started+ for +Getting started with Apache Camel+ 
and deleting +Longer Getting Started Guide+.

 

In +Documentation+  (after +Summary+ and +Overview+) I would suggest the 
following order:
 * User Guide
 * Books
 * Examples
 * Architecture
 * DSL (why is also a DSL entry in Architecture?)
 * Enterprise Integration Patterns
 * Component
 * Data Formats
 * Language

 

In +User Guide+ what was the criterion for the chosen links? There are link 
from the +Faq+, others from +Architecture+. For example, when I click on 
“Apache Karak Support” the breadcrumb is “User Manual / Apache Karak Support”, 
so shouldn’t this page also appear in the +User manual+ in the sidebar?

In +Architecture+ I suggest a link to the section +Architecture+ on the same 
page and not the link that exists now; this way the user will be guided to the 
other links in the +Architecture+ section. Also, not all the links are the same 
as the ones in the +User Manual+ in the sidebar. Same as in +DSL+. Is this 
intentional?

 

In the +User Manual+ (sidebar) I suggest (the split part):
 * +Getting started with Apache Camel+ (change name from Getting started)
 ** Working with CamelContexts and RouteBuilders
 ** Working with Spring
 ** What are the dependencies?
 ** The Enterprise Integration Patterns (EIP) book
 ** Online documentation for Camel
 ** Online Javadoc documentation
 ** Concepts and terminology fundamental to Camel
 ** Other resources

 * +Architecture+ (no idea how to split this section)
 * +Frequently asked questions+

          General questions
 * Can I get commercial support? (...)

          Using Camel Questions
 * Classloader issue of servicemix-camel component (...)

         Logging questions
 * How do I enable debug logging? (...)

        Camel Endpoint questions
 * How do I invoke Camel routes from JBI? (...)

        Component questions
 * Why does my JMS route only consume one message at once?

       Common problems
 * Exception – BeanDefinitionStoreException (...)

 

+Getting started with Apache Camel+ would be a mix between +Getting started+, 
+Getting started with Apache Camel+ and +What are the dependencies?+

Clicking in +Getting started with Apache Camel+ would open an index page and 
from there we would go to the several links presented in the sidebar menu (see 
attachment with all the pages; changes are highlighted in orange) 
[^getting-started-with-apache-camel.docx].

The breadcrumb mentioned in “A useful tip for navigating the online 
documentation” (+Getting started with Apache Camel+ page) doesn’t exist, or at 
least I wasn’t able to find it: Apache Camel / Documentation / Architecture / 
Languages, if we are in Languages we find the breadcrumb to be User Manual / 
Frequently asked questions / What languages are supported?

For the +FAQ+ see the next attachment. There we would have an intro text and 
several links for all the topics (different pages for all of them), also with 
intro texts. [^FAQ  landing-page.docx]

[~aashnajena] and [~Bob160] what is you opinion? Have thought in a similar way?

 

 

> Split up user manual
> --------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-13812
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-13812
>             Project: Camel
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: documentation, website
>            Reporter: Zoran Regvart
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: help-wanted
>             Fix For: 3.x
>
>         Attachments: FAQ  landing-page.docx, 
> getting-started-with-apache-camel.docx, getting-started-with-apache-camel.docx
>
>
> I think we would benefit from splitting up the user manual into even smaller 
> Antora modules:
> * FAQ
> * Getting started
> * User manual
> Perhaps (not sure), Architecture. I think grouping of pages would help as we 
> could have a landing (index) page for each module.



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