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Tomoko Uchida commented on LUCENE-9136:
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[~jtibshirani] [~irvingzhang] thanks for your hard work here!
{quote}I was thinking we could actually reuse the existing `PostingsFormat` and 
`DocValuesFormat` implementations.
{quote}
Actually the first implementation (by Michael Sokolov) for the HNSW was 
wrapping DocValuesFormat to avoid code duplication. However, this approach - 
reusing existing code - could lead another concern from the perspective of 
maintenance. (From the beginning, Adrien Grand suggested a dedicated format 
instead of hacking doc values.) This is the main reason why I introduced a new 
format for knn search in LUCENE-9004.

I'm not strongly against to the "reusing existing format" strategy if it's the 
best way here, just would like to share my feeling that it could be a bit 
controversial and you might need to convince maintainers that the (pretty new) 
feature does not cause any problems/concerns on future maintenance for Lucene 
core, if you implement it on existing formats/readers.

I have not closely looked at your PR yet - sorry if my comments completely 
besides the point (you might already talk with other committers  about the 
implementation in another channel, eg. private chats?).

> Introduce IVFFlat to Lucene for ANN similarity search
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-9136
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9136
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Xin-Chun Zhang
>            Priority: Major
>         Attachments: 1581409981369-9dea4099-4e41-4431-8f45-a3bb8cac46c0.png, 
> image-2020-02-16-15-05-02-451.png
>
>
> Representation learning (RL) has been an established discipline in the 
> machine learning space for decades but it draws tremendous attention lately 
> with the emergence of deep learning. The central problem of RL is to 
> determine an optimal representation of the input data. By embedding the data 
> into a high dimensional vector, the vector retrieval (VR) method is then 
> applied to search the relevant items.
> With the rapid development of RL over the past few years, the technique has 
> been used extensively in industry from online advertising to computer vision 
> and speech recognition. There exist many open source implementations of VR 
> algorithms, such as Facebook's FAISS and Microsoft's SPTAG, providing various 
> choices for potential users. However, the aforementioned implementations are 
> all written in C++, and no plan for supporting Java interface, making it hard 
> to be integrated in Java projects or those who are not familier with C/C++  
> [[https://github.com/facebookresearch/faiss/issues/105]]. 
> The algorithms for vector retrieval can be roughly classified into four 
> categories,
>  # Tree-base algorithms, such as KD-tree;
>  # Hashing methods, such as LSH (Local Sensitive Hashing);
>  # Product quantization based algorithms, such as IVFFlat;
>  # Graph-base algorithms, such as HNSW, SSG, NSG;
> where IVFFlat and HNSW are the most popular ones among all the VR algorithms.
> IVFFlat is better for high-precision applications such as face recognition, 
> while HNSW performs better in general scenarios including recommendation and 
> personalized advertisement. *The recall ratio of IVFFlat could be gradually 
> increased by adjusting the query parameter (nprobe), while it's hard for HNSW 
> to improve its accuracy*. In theory, IVFFlat could achieve 100% recall ratio. 
> Recently, the implementation of HNSW (Hierarchical Navigable Small World, 
> LUCENE-9004) for Lucene, has made great progress. The issue draws attention 
> of those who are interested in Lucene or hope to use HNSW with Solr/Lucene. 
> As an alternative for solving ANN similarity search problems, IVFFlat is also 
> very popular with many users and supporters. Compared with HNSW, IVFFlat has 
> smaller index size but requires k-means clustering, while HNSW is faster in 
> query (no training required) but requires extra storage for saving graphs 
> [indexing 1M 
> vectors|[https://github.com/facebookresearch/faiss/wiki/Indexing-1M-vectors]].
>  Another advantage is that IVFFlat can be faster and more accurate when 
> enables GPU parallel computing (current not support in Java). Both algorithms 
> have their merits and demerits. Since HNSW is now under development, it may 
> be better to provide both implementations (HNSW && IVFFlat) for potential 
> users who are faced with very different scenarios and want to more choices.
> The latest branch is 
> [*lucene-9136-ann-ivfflat*]([https://github.com/irvingzhang/lucene-solr/commits/jira/lucene-9136-ann-ivfflat)|https://github.com/irvingzhang/lucene-solr/commits/jira/lucene-9136-ann-ivfflat]



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