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Chris M. Hostetter commented on SOLR-15252:
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A few thoughts in no particular order...
* if we're going to be opinionated about people using a large value for
{{rows}} because it leads to large allocation for the matches, then what we
should actually be opinionated about is the size of "{{start + rows}}" since
that's what really matters internally.
** {{start=0&rows=100001}} is no worse then {{start=100000&rows=1}}
* any opinionated values we have in the code that produce warnings/failures
should have some config option to override that opinion.
* if we're going to log warnings that tell solr _administrators_ "your
_clients_ are sending you queries that are hozing your system performance"
there should be at least 2 distinct actions those administrators can take to
act on this warning:
** override that opinion to suppress/ignore the warning
** block the bad behavior (and improve sytem performance)
* In general i dislike the "log at most once a minute" concept ...
** for things that are checked once on startup, or once on core/plugin config,
then i think a "log once" pattern (explaining why something configured isn't
going to work the way you might expect) isn't too terrible – but for something
request specific this feels like it will be very confusing for solr
admins/users.
** If i'm an app developer watching the logs while i build my app and do some
test queries, i might see a WARNing for one request, but then not again for a
very similar request - or even for the exact same request - but then a few
minutes (because i might not run these "big rows" queries in stead state) i see
the WARN again ... but then it still doesn't reproduce.
** even if the WARN messages include info like "this message will be logged at
most once every 60 seconds" .. i may never notice them in my testing (because i
only look at the logs "in between" when solr decides to emit the WARN) but then
later when i "go live" with my deployment my logs are full and I'm cursing solr
for not making this more obvious during small scale testing
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I think that in general if we want to be opinionated then those opinions sould
cause failures unless the solr-admins override our opinions.
if we want to "do something" to help address performance risks for "big rows
values" – or more specifically "big start+rows combinations" we should:
* support a configurable upper bound via some QueryComponent.init option – for
sake of argument call it: {{maxStartPlusRows}}
** have a reasonable hardcoded default if config option is not set
** have ref-guide docs making it clear how users can declare a {{"query"}}
component instance to override the implicit default instance (with it's
hardcoded default {{maxStartPlusRows}} )
* QueryComponent.prepare should fail any request where the start+rows exceeds
{{maxStartPlusRows}}
* for the sake of completeness, we may also want to support independent
{{maxStart}} and {{maxRows}} for deployments that want to say "regardless of
how big your pages are, i never want an individual query trying to go deeper
then page X" or "regardless of how deep you paginate, i never want an
individual query trying to return more then X rows per page over the wire"
> Solr should log WARN log when a query requests huge rows number
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>
> Key: SOLR-15252
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-15252
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: query
> Reporter: Jan Høydahl
> Assignee: Jan Høydahl
> Priority: Major
> Time Spent: 1h
> Remaining Estimate: 0h
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> We have all seen it - clients that use Integer.MAX_VALUE or 10000000 as rows
> parameter, to just make sure they get all possible results. And this of
> course leads to high GC pauses since Lucene allocates an array up front to
> hold results.
> Solr should either log WARN when it encounters a value above a certain
> threshold, such as 100k (then you should use cursormark instead). Or it
> should simply respond with 400 error and have a system property or query
> parameter folks can use to override if they know what they are doing.
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