Hi Paul,

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Hanchett, Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 6:07 PM
To: Ylinen, Mikko
Cc: [email protected]; Kenneth Smith
Subject: Re: Errors installing Tizen 3.0 M2 Aug HomeScreen

I'm sorry to say that "launch_app org.tizen.ico.homescreen" does not seem to 
fix my problem.   It says the app has been launched (or is running or some 
such),  but nothing on the VM screen.

I'm going to try setting the environment variables mentioned elsewhere here to 
see if that makes any difference...

Clearly there are a lot of people who think this is working. I'm perplexed that 
it apparently does not for me.  I'm using a VM built on the Aug M2 released 
image.

  1.  Has anyone actually got HomeScreen running with the released (BIOS) 
image?  In a VMware VM?
[Geoffroy] It worked for me at some stage but not anymore... I guess it may 
come back at some stage given it's a race condition (but that's by no means a 
solution :)). I tried the fix that Mikko suggested earlier on the mailing list 
but it did not work for me. He has proposed a patch for 
https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-1724 that's under review 
https://review.tizen.org/gerrit/#/c/9809/1 but I noticed that this later patch 
is different than what I tried so my intention is to wait for it to land and 
then test it. By the way, I'm not 100% sure this is purely related to the 
HomeScreen... I've seen a similar issue where the weston desktop shell does not 
come up. It seems to be triggered much more easily with some screens than with 
others. I have one in particular here which triggers that problem nearly all 
the time.

  1.  When there are known issues and workarounds that need to be applied to 
get the image to work, aren't they part of the release notes?
[Geoffroy] I try to include the top known issues and most 'tips & tricks' in 
the release notes, so respectively:
- https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/IVI/IVI_August_29,_3.0-M2-Aug#Top_Known_Issues
- 
https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/IVI/IVI_August_29,_3.0-M2-Aug#Tips.2C_tricks_and_other_workarounds
I may be missing some though... in my case, I never hit that bug on my platform 
before.

  1.  I can't find these issues listed in Jira-- have they been reported there? 
 If not, how can anyone track the quality of the current build, or know whether 
or not to report a bug?
[Geoffroy] There are some filters in JIRA that have been set-up by various 
folks (from PM, Q&A, etc.): 
https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/secure/ManageFilters.jspa#filterView=popular. You 
can use some of them or do a general search. My rule of thumb is that if I 
don't find a particular issue then I do some debug and file a JIRA issue. If it 
turns out to be a duplicate, then we can later mark it as such and close it but 
at least we can track it through resolution.
I've had it called to my attention that changes/bug fixes are being committed 
to git/Jenkins that do not appear to be driven by bug reports or feature 
requests.  Without an explicit connection between commits and features/bugs, 
how do the QA people know what to focus on when they QA the build?

I apologize in advance for asking these challenging questions--I'm just trying 
to understand how or if I should be reporting what I'm finding.  So far, when I 
report issues here I get the response "Yes, we know about that," but I can't 
find where to know that for myself.

I really want to get into self-help mode.   :-)

Thanks for your responses!

Paul



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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Ylinen, Mikko 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ylinen, Mikko 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Hanchett, Paul
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Rusty--
>>
>> When Tizen reboots, all I get is an empty black screen.  I can switch to
>> other terminals but the wayland screen seems dead.
>>
>> Are you saying that with the "dead" screen, if I go to one of the alternate
>> consoles and "launch_app org.tizen.ico.homescreen" that I should see
>> something happening in the blank display?
>
> Correct. The workaround I shared last Friday on this list helps:
Forgot to mention the bug:
https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-1724

-- Mikko

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