Michael & Gareth,
From what I know from Infa is that Apache Project TLP web pages should
be part of svnsubpub by the end of the year.
Software package distribution by the mirrors is a separate issue.
Some of the web publishing tools are already front ends to svnsubpub
where the publishing function makes commits to the underlying svnsubpub
repository.
If as Michael says, the Xerces project web pages are self-contained
builds from the repository, then what we need to do is:
1. Populate a subversion directory containing the constructed Xerces
TLP web pages.
2. Then tell Infra where to locate the Xerces TLP web pages in the
repository.
Any new committed changes to svnsubpub Xerces TLP web pages directory
will automatically update the outward facing Xerces TLP web pages to the
world. Publishing the web pages becomes a simple commit to the Xerces
TLP svnsubpub directory.
If the outward-facing TLP web pages get hacked, all Infra has to do is
to perform a svn update to repair the web page distribution.
I am looking to do the same (1 and 2 above) for the Xalan TLP web site.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Hathaway
On 4/16/2012 5:14 AM, Michael Glavassevich wrote:
Thanks Gareth.
FYI: Just so that everyone's aware, the Xerces-J build is currently
completely self-contained. Everything it needs (including Ant and the
Stylebook) is checked into the source tree. You just extract it, set
your JAVA_HOME environment variable and call 'build'. This makes it
easier to write scripts around building / testing a release. Was
concerned how using CMS (or even Forrest) might complicate that and
possibly make it more challenging to get out a release.
Michael Glavassevich
XML Technologies and WAS Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: [email protected]
E-mail: [email protected]
Gareth Reakes <[email protected]> wrote on 16/04/2012 03:32:31 AM:
> Hey Michael,
>
> OK - I will leave as is. When I get some time I will at least go
> through the websites and ensure the docs and readmes are up to date
> and accurate.
>
> Gareth
>
> On 11 Apr 2012, at 11:35, Michael Glavassevich wrote:
>
> Hi Gareth,
>
> I tend to be one of the few that ever updates the site (and perhaps
> I'm the only who did in the last 12 months). Consistency would be
> good, but if the result is more complexity, I'm less likely to do
anything.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Technologies and WAS Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: [email protected]
> E-mail: [email protected]
>
> Gareth Reakes <[email protected]> wrote on 11/04/2012 06:18:38 AM:
>
> > Hey Michael,
> >
> > If thats the preference thats fine by me as well. My only thoughts
> > are that we:
> >
> > - need a consistent look and feel for the top level pages and all
> > the local projects
> > - use a system that is supported and existing and new contributors
> > can get support on
> > - have a well documented publishing system
> > - limit the set up time and technical knowledge needed to make
changes
> >
> > We don't have that at the moment. The READMEs in the docs
> > directories are out of date or just plain wrong. You need old
> > versions of java (as well as various other things installed in
> > specific directories and a knowledge of ant to find out where they
> > should be) just to build the commons sub project and the sites are
> > not consistent. I was thinking this was an opportunity to move to
> > something that would be more helpful and it seemed that the Apache
> > CMS was suited to that.
> >
> > Again, these are just my thoughts and I am happy to go with the
majority.
> >
> > Gareth
> >
> > On 11 Apr 2012, at 11:04, Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps I'm missing some detail but ASF CMS seems like a completely
> > different tool for authoring web sites than any that we currently
> > use. Personally had been hoping we'd move to using svnpubsub which
> > seems more straightforward and doesn't require me to learn N new
> > things (I probably won't have the time for) to do something which is
> > simple today.
> >
> > If there's some (hopefully simple) way to use CMS just as a
> > publishing tool of the sites we build as-is with Forrest / Stylebook
> > that's fine too.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Technologies and WAS Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: [email protected]
> > E-mail: [email protected]
> >
> > Gareth Reakes <[email protected]> wrote on 11/04/2012 03:26:10 AM:
> >
> > > Hey Steven,
> > >
> > > As Michael says, Xerces is published manually at the moment. It
> > > could do with a good bit of cleaning up. I was going to have a bash
> > > at that over the coming weeks. I have taken a look at the at the ASF
> > > CMS and it does seem a good way to go. At least at the end of it we
> > > will have a consistent way of publishing the site thats well
> > > documented and would allow new people to come along and change
> > > things fairly easily.
> > >
> > > In terms of the look and feel, Michael borrowed the top level new
> > > pages from XML graphics (which incidentally does use the Apache CMS
> > > although our top level pages currently don't). Gary Gregory from
> > > Apache Commons (note, thats not Xerces/XML commons) had some
> > > examples of nice skins (including a yet to be published one for
> > > commons). He says:
> > >
> > > ….
> > >
> > > In Apache Commons, we are probably going to change the site skin to
> > > something like https://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/
<https://people.apache.org/%7Esimonetripodi/commons/>
> > >
> > > Background thread related to Apache Commons: http://www.mail-
<http://www.mail-/>
> > > archive.com/[email protected]/msg25733.html
> > >
> > > Also nice Apache sites IMO: https://directory.apache.org/, https://
> > > labs.apache.org/
> > >
> > > Gary
> >
> > > …..
> > >
> > > I am sure he would not mind us borrowing it :) Does anyone have any
> > > views/ time to help out with this?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Gareth
> > >
> > > On 10 Apr 2012, at 18:55, [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > Gareth,
> > >
> > > The Xerces XML web pages may already be maintained by ASF-CMS.
> > > This is a front-end to a subversion repository tree that
> > > is used by Infrastructure svnsubpub.
> > >
> > > If you find that Xerces XML is not using ASF-CMS, then
> > > a svnsubpub registration for those web pages should also
> > > be done.
> > >
> > > The Xalan XML TLP will need to be migrated to a subversion
> > > directory path and registered with Infrastructure for svnsubpub.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Steven J. Hathaway
> > > Xalan Documentation Project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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