Hi Joep,

What is with AVR availability on the market? Devices are hard to find
and expensive? Which is the truth?
After I passed through "bricking" problems and understood the "thing",
I'm more and more attracted to them.

If Microchip is smart, can make 18F26K22/46K22 the preferred device of
hobbyists and the answer against Arduino. They already have
Microstick... equip it with 18F26K22, lower the price to let anyone to
buy it and you have a successful product. Then, a Pinguino IDE variant
(having Hi-Tech picc18 in background) will take care of spreading it
along schools and universities... can be a great project.

Vasi

On Dec 18, 4:53 pm, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2010/12/18 Oliver Seitz <[email protected]>:
>
> >> You could also ask why you'd select an 8bit micro
> > Ha. That one is easy: Because I can program it in JAL ;-)
>
> I was wondering who would be the first one with this answer ;)
> For me it is the other way around: I program in JAL because it is the
> best tool for 16F chips. I use C(++) for all other micros (currently:
> atmega and atxmega, arm, hitachi and a few TI launchboards). I use 18F
> chips rarely, but have programmed them in JAL and in C...
>
> > And, 16bit PICs are more expensive than 8bit. I bet
> > faster 8bit devices would be more expensive than
> > slow 8bit devices.
>
> Indeed.
>
> > If a fast 8bit device costs the same as a comparable
> > 16bit device, who (apart from JAL users...) should
> > buy that?
>
> Only the ones that need some level of backward compatibility. And if
> you can't get the exact chip you used for a product a few years ago,
> porting to a chip with the same architecture and instruction set and
> similar peripherals is much cheaper than starting over on a new
> family. Even if most of your code is portable (like C), you still have
> to redo the peripheral interfaces.
>
> > If Microchip designs a new PIC, they need to be sure to sell at least some 
> > tens of thousands of it, or development and production costs would not be 
> > paid.
>
> Right again!
>
> Joep

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