This is now a hijacked thread. It is very interesting, but it may be hard to find again. Wouldn't it be better to record this thread differently, perhaps opening a Jira issue to add XA to Lucene?

-- DM

Doron Cohen wrote:
On Jan 24, 2008 6:55 PM, robert engels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks, you are correct, but I am not sure it covers the complete case.

Change it a bit to be:

A opens reader.
B opens reader.
A performs query decides a new document is needed
B performs query decides a new document is needed
B gets writer, adds document, closes
A gets writer, adds document, closes

There needs to be a way to manually serialize these operations. I
assume I should just do this:

A gets writer
B gets writer - can't so blocked
A opens reader
A performs query decides a new document is needed
A adds document
A closes reader
A closes writer
B now gets writer
B opens reader
B performs query sees a new document is not needed
B closes reader
B closes writer

Previously, with the read locks, I did not think you could open the
reader after you had the write lock.

Am I correct here?


If  I understand you correctly then yes and no :-)

"Yes" in the sense that this would work and achieve the
required serialization, and "no" in that you could always open
readers whether there was an open writer or not.

The current locking logic with readers is that opening a reader does
not require acquiring any lock. Only when attempting to use the reader
for a write operation (e.g. delete) the reader becomes a writer, and
for that it (1) acquires a write lock and (2) verifies that the
index was not modified by any writer since the reader was
first opened (or else it throws that stale exception).

Prior to lockless-commit there were two lock types - write-lock and
commit-lock. The commit-lock was used only briefly - during file opening
during reader-opening, to guarantee that no writer modifies the files that
the
reader is reading (especially the segments file). Lockles-commits got rid
of the commit lock (mainly by changing to never modify a file once it was
written.) Write locks are still in use, but only for writers, as described
above.
(Mike feel free to correct me here...)



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