Hi,

Rather than disabling the merging, have you considered putting the documents in a separate index, possibly in memory, and then deciding when to merge them with the main index yourself?

That way, you can change you mind and simply not merge the new documents if you want.

To do this, you can create a new RAMDirectory, and add your documents to that, then when you want to merge with the main index, open an IndexWriter on the main index, and call IndexWriter.addIndexes(Directory[]). Of course, you don't have to use a RAMDirectory, but it would make sense, if it's only purpose is to temporarily hold the documents until you decide to commit them.

I don't know what will happen if the computer crashes during the merge, but see http://lucene.apache.org/java/2_3_2/api/index.html

This is from the "IndexWriter.addIndexes(Directory[])" documentation:

"This method is transactional in how Exceptions are handled: it does not commit a new segments_N file until all indexes are added. This means if an Exception occurs (for example disk full), then either no indexes will have been added or they all will have been."

I hope that helps!

Regards,
-JB

Eran Sevi wrote:
Thanks Erick.
You might be joking, but one of our clients indeed had all his servers
destroyed in a flood. Of course in this rare case, a solution would be to
keep the backup on another site.

However I'm still confused about normal scenarios:

Let's say that in the middle of the batch I got an exception and wan't to
rollback. Can I do this ?
I want to make sure that after a batch finishes (and only then), it is
written to disk (and not find out after a while during a commit that
something went wrong).Do I have to close the writer or Flush is enough? I
though about raising mergeFactor and other parameters to high values (or
disabling them) so an automatic merge/commit will not happen, and then I can
manually decide when to commit the changes - the size of the batches is not
constant so I can't determine in advance.
I don't mind hurting the index performance a bit by doing this manually, but
I can't efford to let the client think that the information is secured in
the index and than to find out that it's not.

My index size contains a few million docs and it's size can reach about 30G
(we're saving a lot of fields and information for each document). Having a
backup index is an option I considered but I wanted to avoid the overhead of
keeping them synchronized (they might not be on the same server which
exposes a lot of new problems like network issues).

Thanks.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Erick Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

How big is your index? The simpleminded way would be to copy things around
as your batches come in and only switch to the *real* one after the
additions
were verified.

You could also just maintain two indexes but only update one at a time. In
the
99.99% case where things went well, it would just be a matter of continuing
on.
Whenever "something bad happened", you could copy the good index over the
bad one and go at it again.

But to ask that no matter what, the index is OK is asking a lot.... There
are fires and floods and earthquakes to consider <G>

Best
Erick

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Eran Sevi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for the correct way to create an index given the following
restrictions:

1. The documents are received in batches of variable sizes (not more then
100 docs in a batch).
2. The batch insertion must be transactional - either the whole batch is
added to the index (exists physically on the disk), or the whole batch is
canceled/aborted and the index remains as before.
3. The index must remain valid at all times and shouldn't be corrupted
even
if a power interruption occurs - *most important*
4. Index speed is less important than search speed.

How should I use a writer with all these restrictions? Can I do it
without
having to close the writer after each batch (maybe flush is enough)?

Should I change the IndexWriter parameters such as mergeFactor,
RAMBufferSize, etc. ?
I want to make sure that partial batches are not written to the disk (if
the
computer crashes in the middle of the batch, I want to be able to work
with
the index as it was before the crash).

If I'm working with a single writer, is it guaranteed that no matter what
happens the index can be opened and used (I don't mind loosing docs, just
that the index won't be ruined).

Thanks and sorry about the long list of questions,
Eran.


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